Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux?

Re:Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux? by mort96 on Monday August 15, 2022 @03:05PM (#32473849)

Have you actually tried to run the Windows version of Factorio through Proton and experienced slowdowns? In my experience, WINE doesn't result in a noticeable slowdown compared to running on Windows natively (without "emulationware" as you call it), unless there are issues related to graphics API translation which is a separate topic.

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Re:Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux? by sirn on Monday August 15, 2022 @03:36PM (#32474274)

I believe OP is referring to the fact Factorio has some optimization on Linux such as using fork() to autosave (which is copy-on-write unlike its Windows counterpart), which result in zero-stuttering during auto-save for large-SPM bases.

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Re:Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux? by Kaze404 on Monday August 15, 2022 @03:10PM (#32473907)

I’m a huge fan of Wine, but there’s no reason to run Factorio under it. The native Linux version works flawlessly from my experience, and I’m even using a distro where problems with native binaries are common.

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Re:Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux? by yellowapple on Monday August 15, 2022 @08:39PM (#32477745)

> WINE doesn't result in a noticeable slowdown compared to running on Windows natively (without "emulationware" as you call it)

That says very little about whether there'd be a noticeable slowdown compared to running a Linux-native version on Linux natively, though.

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Re:Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux? by hot_gril on Monday August 15, 2022 @05:12PM (#32475443)

> unless there are issues related to graphics API translation

But there almost always are problems in that area. I've never had a game run with the same FPS and stability in Wine vs natively in Windows.

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Re:Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux? by mort96 on Monday August 15, 2022 @05:16PM (#32475483)

My point was it's not inherent to WINE. There's a lot of Windows games which support Vulkan or OpenGL, those work excellently.

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Re:Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux? by hot_gril on Monday August 15, 2022 @06:06PM (#32476084)

Csgo is OpenGL and doesn't work excellently in my experience, but yeah, in theory they should.

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Re:Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux? by account42 on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @10:52AM (#32483542)

CS:GO is Direct3Dish with an OpenGL shim (or alternatively with a better Vulkan shim now).

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Re:Win32 Is the Only Stable ABI on Linux? by littlestymaar on Monday August 15, 2022 @05:26PM (#32475602)

Exactly the same fps, unlikely.

But phoronix has tons of benchmarks showing that WINE/proton are in the same ballpark as the native windows version, sometimes a bit slower but as many times a bit faster as well.

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