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Re:Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psych... by klyrs on Monday August 15, 2022 @12:32PM (#32471806)
> At least that’s what I gather from friends that are struggling with the app-centric dating landscape.

There's the real problem. Most of the women I know who use apps hate them, too. The incentive structure around dating apps is terrible, and from what I can tell, it's deepening the already ridiculous polarization of gender. Men and women alike reduce eachother to the worst stereotypes, and their dating preferences get twisted into cynicism and materialism contrary to previously-held moral stances.

If you think the problem is that women have it easy, I've gotta question if you have friends that are women. The problem is the loss of Third Places, which creates a market that dating apps monopolize.

Re:Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psych... by tsol on Monday August 15, 2022 @01:35PM (#32472731)
Not OOP, but to me the problem isn't that women have it easy. That's a short sighted take by people that don't understand. Women just have more opportunity for physical contact. Obviously this doesn't satisfy the need for emotional intimacy. But to men who haven't had physical or emotional intimacy in a long time, it's easy to think they have it good because at least they can find someone to lie to them and say they care about them for one night. Part of the problem is these slight differences make it hard to empathize with each other
Re:Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psych... by klyrs on Monday August 15, 2022 @01:42PM (#32472826)
> Women just have more opportunity for physical contact.

Whether or not they want it -- "opportunity" isn't the right word for this.

Re:Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psych... by icedchai on Monday August 15, 2022 @12:38PM (#32471904)
The apps really destroyed online dating. I used to meet people on OKCupid... until they made it more Tinder-like. You can't even search or browse these days.

Craigslist Personals was also fun. Until it got taken down.

The late 90's through early 2000's internet was way better for meeting people online.

Re:Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psych... by klyrs on Monday August 15, 2022 @01:25PM (#32472571)
> The late 90's through early 2000's internet was way better for meeting people online.

Right? I made quite a few friends and even a couple of romantic partners on forums and BBSs. For what it's worth, I've seen this happen (tactfully!) on facebook (before they decided that they needed to be a dating site too -_-), through mutual friends and special-interest groups. But, that specifically doesn't work for straight people who are locked into gender-isolated bubbles.

Re:Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psych... by kwere on Monday August 15, 2022 @03:23PM (#32474086)
could that be selection bias? a lot less of niche people today on big apps, and more casual(superficial) mainstream "scene"? like in those time people were selfselecting on certain traits and really motivated on soulmate search?

(european POV, internet became mainstream in 2010s with social networks)

Re:Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psych... by klyrs on Monday August 15, 2022 @04:17PM (#32474837)
> (european POV, internet became mainstream in 2010s with social networks)

Wow. In the US, 2010 was about when AOL stopped stuffing our mailboxes with install disks... (some research later) make that 2006.

https://americanhistory.si.edu/collections/search/object/nma...

https://www.vox.com/2015/5/12/8594049/aol-free-trial-cds

Re:Number of 'lonely, single' men is on the rise, says psych... by icedchai on Monday August 15, 2022 @04:02PM (#32474647)
Possibly. I'm also older now, which probably doesn't help...