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Re:Three papers highlight results of record yield nuclear fu... by idlehand on Sunday August 14, 2022 @02:21PM (#32461545)
The issue is rather that due to the unpredictable nature of renewables, sometimes the stars align so that the combined output of wind, solar, and hydro end up far beyond what the grid needs.

During those times, in some parts of Europe for example, renewable energy really is practically free. This is a problem for nuclear and fossil plants which lose money during those times. The renewable operators don't make much either but at least they don't have very high input costs.

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Re:Three papers highlight results of record yield nuclear fu... by grecy on Sunday August 14, 2022 @09:30PM (#32464889)
> During those times, in some parts of Europe for example, renewable energy really is practically free.

Not merely "practically free", but actually negative price. i.e. they pay you to use electricity, because they need to get rid of it.

https://www.energycouncil.com.au/analysis/increases-in-negat...

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Re:Three papers highlight results of record yield nuclear fu... by SV_BubbleTime on Sunday August 14, 2022 @03:34PM (#32462199)
> During those times, in some parts of Europe for example, renewable energy really is practically free.

Isn’t it more fair to say that during those times they are resting their costs at a higher rate than with their typical output?

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Re:Three papers highlight results of record yield nuclear fu... by formvoltron on Sunday August 14, 2022 @09:31PM (#32464900)
except batteries.
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