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Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:01PM (#32452203)
Hi there, creators of Logistics here. Super happy to see this featured on Hacker News.

Feel free to ask us anything!

official site is logisticsartproject.com

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @05:08PM (#32453811)
Since several of you have asked how to watch the movie, we spontaneously decided to stream the first 21 hours of Logistics on Twitch. Since it will soon be night here in Sweden, we will not be able to keep track of the stream. We're keeping our fingers crossed that it works. Unfortunately we will not be able to stream the entire film this time, but hope to do so later.

The stream is live now at https://www.twitch.tv/logisticsartproject

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by boomboomsubban on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:49PM (#32452651)
Why is it silent? Was a camera with an acceptable microphone too expensive/difficult to maintain?

The article makes a big deal out of finally seeing a person. Is that person aware of the movie?

Sounds like an interesting film, thanks for answering questions about it.

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @03:02PM (#32452744)
We couldn't figure out what sound to have, so we opted for silence. We also hoped it would be more contemplative without sound.

Yes he is aware that the camera is recording, he needed to wash the windows on the bridge.

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by amelius on Saturday August 13, 2022 @09:12PM (#32455382)
> We couldn't figure out what sound to have, so we opted for silence.

Why not simply record the sound near the camera?

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by stevage on Saturday August 13, 2022 @10:15PM (#32455719)
Possible privacy issues?
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by amelius on Saturday August 13, 2022 @09:15PM (#32455397)
Did you track GPS data along with the video?

I suppose it would be nice if you could view a map with the current position while watching the movie.

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by Balgair on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:55PM (#32452689)
What was the hardest thing about accomplishing this?

What was the easiest?

Any advice for other film-makers?

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @03:10PM (#32452829)
Some of the hardest things were: - Gathering facts about the product, where it was manufactured and what its shipping routes were. - Getting permission to film during the trip. - Finding a technical solution (in 2011) that could record continuously during the entire journey of the container ship.

It was comparatively easy to design the concept, it then took a very long time to implement.

We are not professional filmmakers, but something that helped us was to be stubborn.

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by junon on Saturday August 13, 2022 @05:04PM (#32453780)
Being stubborn is highly underrated!
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by thatwasunusual on Sunday August 14, 2022 @05:02AM (#32457698)
Thanks for doing this!

It brings me to a story from two years ago about Norwegian (...) fish - branded as "environment friendly" - is sent from Norway to China for filleting, and then back to the market. About 25% of all the cod sold by one of the biggest companies in Norway has endured this trip.

It's worth mentioning that the fish in question comes from "all over the world", but still.

Google translation: https://www-nrk-no.translate.goog/norge/miljomerka-torsk-ver...

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by gtsop on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:21PM (#32452372)
Where can we see it?
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:30PM (#32452460)
Right now only at the library at Johns Hopkins University in Baltimore. We had the full film up on Vimeo for a year but it was too expensive too keep it there. Its hard to find a good cheap place to host a movie of this length.
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by chrismiller on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:38PM (#32452545)
Would love to help you get this back online if you are interested! Happy to host it or point you in the right direction if you'd like to do it yourself.
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:54PM (#32452676)
Sounds great! Our email is in our profile.
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by radihuq on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:49PM (#32452634)
out of curiosity, how big is the file?

EDIT: never mind, I see you answered this in another comment:

> The original film is around 10TB of mpeg2 1080p 25mbit/sec 25 frames per second.

> We later transcoded to h264, it now clocks in at about 2TB.

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by buck4roo on Saturday August 13, 2022 @04:37PM (#32453560)
Have you considered archive.org?
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by gregsadetsky on Saturday August 13, 2022 @05:23PM (#32453918)
Really great suggestion -- @logisticsfilm you should consider it!

Also https://ubu.com/ might be interested to host/distribute it and it's a great fit as well.

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by metadat on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:41PM (#32452563)
Are you open to distributing via torrent?
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:49PM (#32452652)
So far we have chosen not to because we consider the core of the work to be the continuous length of the film. A torrent would enable timelapses and short versions. But we will think about it.
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by djbusby on Saturday August 13, 2022 @03:09PM (#32452815)
That can/will happen regardless of distribution via Vimeo or torrent or YT or whatever.

Torrent doesn't enable that any more than any other distribution channel.

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by robswc on Sunday August 14, 2022 @12:50AM (#32456442)
Yea, a bit confused about that as well.

Maybe they mean providers could offer the download in chunks? But yea, there's nothing stopping someone getting the full file and just ffwding that.

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by yunohn on Saturday August 13, 2022 @03:50PM (#32453150)
What’s wrong with a timelapse? Seems like the perfect opportunity.
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by t6jvcereio on Saturday August 13, 2022 @04:49PM (#32453654)
This is weird. No normal person is going to watch 857 hours. The only person to watch that long are movie industry people, so they can write about it.

Separate question, how do you monetize this?

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by jamiek88 on Saturday August 13, 2022 @07:22PM (#32454730)
It’s art.
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by djbusby on Saturday August 13, 2022 @03:10PM (#32452825)
Is this a case for PeerTube?
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by corny on Saturday August 13, 2022 @04:17PM (#32453389)
The Polygon Gallery (North Vancouver, BC) hosted The Clock a few years ago. But staying open for a 24 hour long film must be much easier than for a month long film.
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by moralestapia on Sunday August 14, 2022 @06:17PM (#32463553)
Sounds like a good fit for Cloudflare's R2 (and see if they keep their word).
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by kevinmchugh on Saturday August 13, 2022 @04:29PM (#32453487)
Could you continuously stream it on twitch or YouTube or the like?
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @05:09PM (#32453816)
Great idea, thanks!

Since several of you have asked how to watch the movie, we spontaneously decided to stream the first 21 hours of Logistics on Twitch. Since it will soon be night here in Sweden, we will not be able to keep track of the stream. We're keeping our fingers crossed that it works. Unfortunately we will not be able to stream the entire film this time, but hope to do so later.

The stream is live now at https://www.twitch.tv/logisticsartproject

Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @04:38PM (#32453567)
Youtube has commercials which we would like to avoid, but we had not considered twitch. Perhaps that's a good idea. We have livestreamed it before, but it's quite a commitment to keep a stream running 24/7 for 37 days.
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by junon on Saturday August 13, 2022 @05:05PM (#32453790)
Torrents?
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by madmod on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:36PM (#32452520)
Can I please buy a copy?
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by logisticsfilm on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:42PM (#32452579)
unfortunately its not for sale, but we are actively looking for a place to host it as a VOD again. Send us an email if you want to be notified if and when its available again. (email in profile)
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by epolanski on Saturday August 13, 2022 @05:49PM (#32454110)
Split it in different pieces and upload it on YouTube?
Re:“Logistics”, an 857-hour movie, tracks a pedometer from s... by testplzignore on Saturday August 13, 2022 @06:38PM (#32454486)
How many times have you watched it yourself?