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Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by machinekob on Saturday August 13, 2022 @12:47PM (#32451549)
Its probably biggest environmental catastrophy in Europe after chernobyl, and the best of all polish goverment officials said on wednesday: "Everything is fine, you can go swim in the river and catch fish" and 2 days later they revert it all and send warnings to all people living near the river and this proceder was going on for at least 2 weeks.
Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by southerntofu on Saturday August 13, 2022 @01:52PM (#32452144)
That's a classic! That was already the government propaganda (at least here in France) at the time of Chernobyl, that everything is fine and kids should play outside like any other day.

The same kind of situation happened 3 years ago in Rouen (France) where a Lubrizol chemical factory burnt down and the government said everything was just fine, before taking emergency measures, before finally saying that everything was fine all along. It was not the first incident with that plant, and the richer people did not wait for the release of the list of chemicals involved in the incident to leave the city.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lubrizol_factory_fire_in_Rouen

Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by prox on Saturday August 13, 2022 @05:34PM (#32454001)
It’s a literal toxic mafia it seems. Just dump without consequences and pay the politicians to close their eyes. I hope countries wake up soon.
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Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by dang on Saturday August 13, 2022 @03:10PM (#32452822)
Could you please stop posting flamebait comments to HN? It's against the site guidelines, and we ban accounts that do it repeatedly.

Fortunately your account has also posted good comments, but if you would please review https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and stick to the rules, we'd appreciate it.

Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by luciusdomitius on Saturday August 13, 2022 @04:14PM (#32453366)
May I ask what classifies this comment as flamebait, what the concrete criteria are and some other examples?

Thanks

P.S.

Alright, now I see, that it would be under the "unrelated controversy" clause. Could you explain to me objectively how the parent comment doesn't fall under the same one too? And actually 40-50% of off-topic comments on HN?

On top of that it is not completely unrelated either, as it is imo globally the second most prominent example of government miscalculation/cover up, the lack of accountability which followed it, etc.

Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by dang on Sunday August 14, 2022 @02:56AM (#32457083)
> May I ask what classifies this comment as flamebait

Well, for starters, switching to a highly divisive topic that has nothing to do with the original story; jacking up the indignation/inflammation levels; snark; and I suppose also the political reference.

> Could you explain to me objectively how the parent comment doesn't fall under the same one too?

I don't know about "objectively" because there's always interpretation involved—but I'd say the GP comment was quite a bit closer to the original topic; did not introduce a classic flamewar topic; contained more information than inflammation; and wasn't snarky.

Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by luciusdomitius on Friday August 19, 2022 @08:19AM (#32520075)
Alright. Could we get a list of those "forbidden topics" in such case. Besides, I don't see it starting a flame war - you are pretty much the only person who commented, but whatever. Apparently we are leaving in Peak Clown times LOL.
Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by dang on Friday August 19, 2022 @10:29AM (#32521413)
I didn't say anything about forbidden topics. This is about comment quality, not topic. Note this, for example, from https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html:

"Comments should get more thoughtful and substantive, not less, as a topic gets more divisive."

Re flamebait: I'm talking about what leads to flamewars in the statistical case. Suppose you drop a lit match in a dry forest. The argument "but it didn't cause a wildfire" is not a good one.

Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by paganel on Saturday August 13, 2022 @03:35PM (#32453038)
Back in 2000 there was also a Romanian gold mine polluting rivers in Romania, Hungary, Serbia and the Danube all the way to the Black Sea. Allegedly 100 tonnes of cyanides were spilled into the river ecosystem. The related wikipedia article [1]

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2000_Baia_Mare_cyanide_spill

Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by Xylakant on Saturday August 13, 2022 @02:35PM (#32452509)
There were a few environmental disasters since Chernobyl, for example the Sandoz fire which poisoned the rhine. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandoz_chemical_spill
Re:2022 Oder Environmental Disaster by pvaldes on Sunday August 14, 2022 @02:59PM (#32461891)
Or the Prestige oil spill. The cleaning bill to remove the 70.000 tonnes of fuel would fall in he range of 2.5 billion to 10 billion euro. One can really destroy a local economy with that.