Re:The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Makefiles
by cassepipe on Friday August 12, 2022 @03:49PM
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I personally use Xmake and try to advertise it every time I get the chance : FOSS, no DSL it's just Lua, dead simple yet featureful, and it is ninja fast, or at least claims to be I never bothered to check that out, it's fast enough for me.
Re:The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Makefiles
by EddySchauHai on Friday August 12, 2022 @02:19PM
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Absolutely! Basically every company I've worked with over the last couple years as a contractor followed this methodology and it's grown to be my default runner as it's language agnostic.
Re:The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Makefiles
by properparity on Friday August 12, 2022 @02:32PM
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> incremental builds
I've found that to not matter that much these days - unless your projects is hundreds of thousands (or maybe millions even) of LOC, full builds are instant on modern machines.
Re:The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Makefiles
by klodolph on Friday August 12, 2022 @03:44PM
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That's definitely not true for:
- Most C++ or Rust projects
- Medium size or larger C projects
- Anything which is built with tools written in JavaScript (due to Node startup time overhead)
Stuff where a full build is close enough to instant:
- Most Java, C#, Go projects
- Small C projects
- Tiny/trivial C++ or Rust programs, or C++ programs written for embedded systems
This is just my experience. YMMV.
Re:The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Makefiles
by stjohnswarts on Friday August 12, 2022 @06:50PM
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any sizeable rust or c++ project is gonna take a while to compile in my experience? I tend to break things off into libraries that are faster to compile. Some of my coworkers don't like it but they learn to deal (c++)
Re:The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Makefiles
by klodolph on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:22PM
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> I tend to break things off into libraries that are faster to compile.
Yes, exactly. Incremental compilation! This is what Make is not good at.
Re:The Unreasonable Effectiveness of Makefiles
by UncleEntity on Friday August 12, 2022 @09:55PM
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Unless your modern machine isn’t very powerful because you value food and rent more.
These days, I would absolutely not use Make to compile code written in C, except for the smallest personal projects. It is just too fussy to construct the Makefile correctly, in a way that you can get correct incremental builds. Nearly any other build system is better at building projects written in C, in the sense that it is easy & straightforward to get your build system to do correct incremental builds.