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Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by GormHouj on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:24AM (#32439948)
I see a lot of articles that quote the cost for hacking a product or service. I feel like these type of titles undermine the effort that took place. Surely the lab Wouters used had tools and processes that aren't cheap, nor would you consider his expertise inexpensive.

I'm not impressed by a PCB board being cheap. Does anyone else feel this way about similar headlines?

Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by mikeytown2 on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:28AM (#32440017)
Price is a factor for how accessible the hack is. If it requires an expensive FGPA or a lot of AWS time to crack then that makes it less appealing.
Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by wpietri on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:32AM (#32440075)
Exactly. For me it's about the replicability of the attack. Is it restricted to government-sized organizations? Or can anybody with the skills do it?
Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by GormHouj on Friday August 12, 2022 @01:40PM (#32441726)
Interestingly, either H/N changed the submission title, or the article itself changed their title to reflect the content of the article better. Is there a way I can check which happened in the last few hours?
Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by tppiotrowski on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:29AM (#32440023)
I think the point is that anyone with $25 can hack Starlink once the script or instructions are published online. Information costs almost nothing to publish/ share so it's the cost of the hardware that matters.
Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by samstave on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:40AM (#32440191)
"You wouldn't download a satellite uplink would you?"

Uh, yep thats exactly what I want to do :-)

Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by beeboop on Friday August 12, 2022 @01:27PM (#32441556)
"Twitter hack compromising 5.4 million accounts accomplished using $12 keyboard"
Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by nottorp on Friday August 12, 2022 @02:55PM (#32442555)
Gods that one had no self respect! You cannot properly hack on any keyboard that isn't mechanical and worth at least $200!
Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by elteto on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:36AM (#32440133)
It’s just low grade journalism trying to inflate the impact of the bug.

Conspicuously missing is the cost of the equipment in the lab where he developed the first prototype.

Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by jeffbee on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:38AM (#32440155)
I think it's useful to differentiate between attacks anyone can do with common hardware and things like smartcard attacks that you can only do with access to an electron microscope.
Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by xen2xen1 on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:28AM (#32440010)
Yes and no. Is the $25 increasingly irrelevant. Sure. Is it clickbait-y, yes. Does it matter because it might make it more widespread, it probably still does.
Re:The hacking of Starlink terminals has begun by rubylark on Friday August 12, 2022 @11:33AM (#32440098)
Absolutely. This modchip is just a raspberry pi plus a couple parts. You'd have to try hard to get it to be expensive. The BOM for most embedded systems is going to be cheap unless you need some exotic hardware. It really does seem to ignore the amount of time this guy spent to get to figure out what parts he needed and where to solder them. If it was developed by a company instead of an individual, you can bet it wouldn't have cost "only $25 to develop".

Edit: fixed for clarity of thought