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Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by dgs_sgd on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:04PM (#32434023)
It's simple. Whenever I query for "X", under the hood duck duck go queries "X reddit".

Jokes aside I think fixing the SEO hacking as the author mentions would go the longest way. It's really bad for stack overflow posts. When I Google a programming error the first few results are copy cat sites with the exact Stack Overflow questions and replies. I don't understand how SEO has evolved to favor that over the actual, more popular, stack overflow page.

Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by ramraj07 on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:36PM (#32434183)
Everyone on HN is catching up to this, but what we are all realizing is we want actual user curation, trusted user curation.

Reddit is currently a good proxy because the best recommendations on Reddit for a question are upvoted reasonably democratically by the type of people you’d trust. For the time being the gamification of Reddit isn’t bad enough to be an issue here.

But that’s just a matter of time. As more and more people start using Reddit as the most authentic source of dependable information, folks are gonna start gaming that to the core as well, basically this is going to be a game like the Red Queen.

One possibility is that the search engine itself starts becoming like Reddit maybe? They clearly know what result you’re clicking, they could start making user similarities (or ask you for an explicit list of your peers) to find similar users and rank results based on what people like you click. Obviously google can do it easier since it knows YOu. But even DDG maybe able to do something like user curation or site blacklisting (and have popular lists like exist for tracking avoidance that you can subscribe to). This is the only solution IMO.

For example for any coding related search I’d be happy to rid of every top 10 result in google except SO. All the rest is garbage.

Maybe there’s also an upvote button. But the score is not universal but personalized to you based on votes from people you actually might trust.

Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by cavisne on Friday August 12, 2022 @04:56AM (#32436037)
This is why google tried so hard to succeed in social media.

Content written by humans has been moving to walled gardens like Facebook, Twitter, tiktok, Reddit.

Most of these don’t let google index them properly, as they would prefer uses create an account on their site and use their own search.

Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by woweoe on Thursday August 11, 2022 @11:29PM (#32434440)
Reddit is already a cesspool for many issues including politics, news and race/culture based questions.
Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by lelanthran on Friday August 12, 2022 @04:29AM (#32435872)
> Reddit is already a cesspool for many issues including politics, news and race/culture based questions.

So? The blast radius of those issues doesn't fully spillover into the non-political forums.

You want to know which of two different products in a particular class is better? /r/<productclass> won't be filled with political or culture-based proselytising.

Looking to buy a new laptop/car/power-tool/chair? Good advice is to be found on reddit and you may never even see a single off-topic discussion in your search.

Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by pydry on Friday August 12, 2022 @07:14AM (#32436808)
Probably wont be long until the spammers figure out how to invade those spaces too though.
Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by Gareth321 on Friday August 12, 2022 @03:01AM (#32435409)
Agreed. There are certain topics which for which one cannot find anything resembling unbiased and factual, and it's getting worse as the owners continue to turn Reddit into a sanitised, ad-friendly social platform. If one is using Reddit to find relevant information, they first need knowledge about which subreddits can be trusted, and this is in constant flux.
Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by dageshi on Friday August 12, 2022 @06:56AM (#32436716)
Everywhere is a cesspool for those issues.
Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by jonappleseed22 on Friday August 12, 2022 @12:55AM (#32434843)
(engineer at Neeva here)

I couldn't agree more which is why we recently launched our Onebox product bringing you forum content directly inline with your search results.

https://neeva.com/blog/introducing-neeva-onebox-community-co...

Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by Gareth321 on Friday August 12, 2022 @03:29AM (#32435540)
I just gave Neeva a shot and it's really great. I love that I can up and down rank domains, and it doesn't appear to filter domains using some shadowy ideological algorithm. I don't seem to have access to that Onebox feature yet but I imagine it's being rolled out by region.

One question: why are there no dates under results? Even for articles where the date is near the top. This is something I rely on heavily to filter out the older results. To provide an example, I searched for "keychron k2v2" and found this article from Sep 26, 2020 (https://appleinsider.com/articles/20/09/26/review-the-keychr...). I then filtered to show me only results from the last year, and this result still popped up. This suggests the Neeva engine doesn't detect dates at all.

Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by jonappleseed22 on Friday August 12, 2022 @01:15PM (#32441403)
Updating my comment...

We're actively working on this!

We should have significantly better coverage for dates in results in the next few weeks. Stay tuned!

Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by Gareth321 on Monday August 15, 2022 @10:33AM (#32470179)
Amazing! Thanks for the update!
Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by mwint on Thursday August 11, 2022 @11:35PM (#32434462)
SO, GitHub, often Reddit, and pure technical doc sites would be on my list of non-garbage from Google’s top 10.
Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by riolu on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:08PM (#32434049)
> under the hood duck duck go queries "X reddit".

Both Google and DDG already do that, you just format the query correctly. Once you are an expert in a field you will begin to understand how bad reddit is for information.

Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by yunohn on Friday August 12, 2022 @12:07AM (#32434613)
But “X Reddit beats Google” (ironically on google) is the biggest meme right now. Are you telling me it barely works?
Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by o_m on Friday August 12, 2022 @07:59AM (#32437156)
I've noticed Google has started to ignore the Reddit postfix more and more. Now I have to add site:reddit.com to get reddit results
Re:My take on how DuckDuckGo can outperform Google by Method-X on Thursday August 11, 2022 @11:06PM (#32434338)
Brave Search has a Goggle that does exactly what you want:

https://search.brave.com/goggles?goggles_id=https%3A%2F%2Fra...