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Re:Give nothing, expect nothing: Gitlab latest punching bag ... by ddevault on Thursday August 11, 2022 @10:33AM (#32426282)
> I think Sourcehut does this in an ideal way. On the site it very clearly says that it's currently free, but as soon as it goes stable it expects users to pay, in fact they actually sent me an email reminding me of that fact. There's no shiny "we have all these shiny features, the first dose is free!" behaviour.

We still have some confused/entitled users despite this, who express astonishment that online services might require payment. We generally issue refunds to these users (and simultaneously terminate paid services).

I think we need to make a cultural shift back towards paying for the things we use, so that incentives are properly aligned and there's no need to get "creative" with monetizing users.

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Re:Give nothing, expect nothing: Gitlab latest punching bag ... by encryptluks2 on Thursday August 11, 2022 @11:37AM (#32427351)
> I think we need to make a cultural shift back towards paying for the things we use, so that incentives are properly aligned and there's no need to get "creative" with monetizing users.

That is if everyone acted in good faith. There are lots of services that monetize users even if they pay and will keep doing so as their primary business model is greed.

You may start off paying a company that has good intentions but those good intentions rarely seem to last.

It can be challenging to figure out what is good intention, like GitLab offering free services... Or maybe Uber Eats offering free credits as long as you install their mobile app and provide your personal information.

I'd prefer to not give any money to someone unless I know for sure what I'm getting and that it is at a fair price.

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