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Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by bryanlarsen on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:36PM (#32418053)
Starlink's constellation isn't even half completed yet. It's likely that Starlink will get faster when they have more satellites. Why are they judging results on incomplete data? The other guys get until 2028 to finish their build-out -- why doesn't Starlink?
Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by pwinnski on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:39PM (#32418094)
They do. Once they finish their buildout and can meet the performance required, they can re-apply.
Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by bryanlarsen on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:43PM (#32418168)
That's a completely different round. There will be different rules, and different competitors. They have to recompete.

Next year it's likely the Senate will have changed hands, so the likelihood of the program still existing is low.

That's like telling the winner of a sports tournament that sorry, the prize you were promised is gone. But we might have another tournament next year, so that's OK.

Starlink is going to sue over this, and they'll win. By 2028 Starlink expects to have two orders of magnitude more capacity than they do now. 15x as many satellites, with an order of magnitude more capacity per satellite.

Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by vel0city on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @05:00PM (#32418404)
> That's like telling the winner of a sports tournament

But Starlink didn't win the sports tournament this year, they didn't meet the performance obligations.

Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by shaklee3 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:46PM (#32421339)
> Starlink is going to sue over this, and they'll win. By 2028 Starlink expects to have two orders of magnitude more capacity than they do now. 15x as many satellites, with an order of magnitude more capacity per satellite

and an order of magnitude (or more) more subscribers. they're likely going to fall far short on the launch cadence (as they have) and subscriber demand isn't going away.

Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by ncmncm on Thursday August 11, 2022 @02:49AM (#32422341)
More satellites means they can sell more subscriptions, not that subscriptions will be faster. And, they need those subscriptions badly.
Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by shaklee3 on Thursday August 11, 2022 @07:54AM (#32424324)
I know, but they need more subscriptions and those subscriptions to be faster given these latest results.
Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by Moto7451 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:57PM (#32418350)
> Next year it's likely the Senate will have changed hands, so the likelihood of the program still existing is low.

This program started under the previous administration. Overall these subsidies have been around forever and will likely continue. Here’s a negative take on the status quo that runs through the history up to this program:

https://techpolicyinstitute.org/publications/broadband/rural...

Personally I think this falls into the category of “if it’s worth doing it’s worth doing poorly.” I actually think that having 100/20 as a benchmark is good and that Starlink will get there. Is it close enough to be an improvement over Hughsnet and 56k modems? Yes. Even at 20 up, 10 down it’s more usable.

Anything Elon Musk touches invites controversy these days so boring policy issues like this get a new life of their own.

If this were Comcast being shown the door we’d all be cheering. For example: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2022/08/man-who-built-is...

Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by CircleSpokes on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @05:27PM (#32418681)
>Next year it's likely the Senate will have changed hands, so the likelihood of the program still existing is low.

Why do you think this? The FCC was handing out tons of cash to rural ISPs under Trump & a Republican congress. Improving rural internet is popular and well supported among the republicans since lots of rural areas are pretty red.

Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by emkoemko on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @09:49PM (#32420685)
hahaha .... umm you know they still will over provision them its a business after all limited bandwidth lots of potential customers...
Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by bryanlarsen on Thursday August 11, 2022 @07:40AM (#32424207)
It's a good thing then that there's a cash incentive not to over provision. Oh wait, they just took that away.
Re:FCC cancels Starlink’s and LTD's rural development grants by emkoemko on Tuesday August 16, 2022 @09:47PM (#32491329)
ahaha you are funny... every single NA ISP does this... gov funds their built out of network and they get it for free then over subscribe the crap out of it..

plus Musk is against subsidies and government intervention