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Re:Francis Fukuyama: Paths to Depolarization by tokai on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @08:40AM (#32410940)
He's such a hack, and the End of History was dumb even back in 92. Guess what he is saying resonates with some people, cause he keeps getting attention despite his work being neo-liberal fanfiction.
Re:Francis Fukuyama: Paths to Depolarization by vehemenz on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @09:48AM (#32411864)
You make it sound like there's a large roster of public intellectuals worth listening to. Why lump him in with the Tucker Carlsons of the world?
Re:Francis Fukuyama: Paths to Depolarization by tokai on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @10:02AM (#32412104)
Excuse me but what is the point of your comment? Anything general about intellectuals in my comment is all in your own head. And what does some American pundit has to do with anything?
Re:Francis Fukuyama: Paths to Depolarization by vehemenz on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @10:19AM (#32412410)
Uncharitable metacomment aside, I can't clarify much more.

You said he's a "hack," I'm saying it's relative. If Fukuyama is a hack, then that doesn't leave many public intellectuals left.

Re:Francis Fukuyama: Paths to Depolarization by tokai on Thursday August 11, 2022 @05:54AM (#32423529)
You did not add anything of value to the discussion, and it has nothing to do with my comment. You not even bringing a real argument for anything to the table. An absolute preposterous idea that Fuku being an idiot says anything about other public intellectuals. Don't make me, or anyone else, the target of your own internal discussion. Especially such nonsense.
Re:Francis Fukuyama: Paths to Depolarization by pydry on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @11:15AM (#32413373)
There's Chomsky.

Anybody really worth listening to is probably not going to be as corporate friendly as Fukuyama so they probably wont get much of an airing on the mainstream media.

Re:Francis Fukuyama: Paths to Depolarization by rayiner on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @01:40PM (#32415769)
I like Chomsky, but your criticism makes no sense. You can’t be a serious intellectual unless you hate corporations? Have you looked around lately? People love corporations and the products corporations make. And there is no better system than corporate neoliberalism, that we have figured out, for giving people the material things they want in large quantities. I just got back from Disneyland. It’s neoliberal paradise and people love it. People in my third world home country want to come to America and buy a house in Texas with four bedrooms and a pool and take their kids to Disneyland.

There’s lots of good criticisms to be made of the system. But there’s also a serious intellectual case for why systems that facilitate people getting the material things they want is a good thing. To write that off completely is intellectual laziness; a desire to wish away the difficult parts of your own position.

Re:Francis Fukuyama: Paths to Depolarization by panick21_ on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:25PM (#32417915)
Chomsky who loves to downplay genocide if done by a leftist party and the political system he advocates is so hilariously unproven and basically can not actually work. But sure he is really worth listing too.
Re:Francis Fukuyama: Paths to Depolarization by unethical_ban on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @10:19AM (#32412402)
The Origins of Political Order was a good book. I felt it had a reasonable way of structuring the understanding of how different societies came about and how a different mix of rule of law, accountability to the people, and the existence of a state.