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Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by altairprime on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:13AM (#32407783)
Google closed down their Jabber gateway because they couldn’t stop the endless flood of spam into their userbase. If they had instead required device identifier attestations to accompany all Jabber messages, they could have left that API open for everyone to use, and simply banned device identifiers used for spamming. I wish they’d done so, instead of just giving up and closing their doors to Jabber.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by zaik on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @01:52AM (#32408196)
Do you have any good source on why Google decided to shut down their XMPP service? I'd really like to read about it.

Not sure about the spam thing, after all they also provide a federating email service.

Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by MattJ100 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @02:30AM (#32408420)
This article has some context and links to original sources: https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/google/google-talk-to-...
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by alxndr on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:25PM (#32417917)
How much effort/development have they put in to the spam detection on Gmail?
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by zaik on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @09:24PM (#32420531)
If you have the ability to detect spam in emails you can probably also detect spam in chat messages.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by int_19h on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @02:17AM (#32408349)
I used Google Talk pretty much since the day it was released, and I don't recall any "endless flood of spam".
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by account42 on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @09:56AM (#32412007)
This idea that we need to rely on big Google to protect us is insane. Just make it so that messages from unknown contacts are not as annoying or even hidden entirely unless you go explicitly looking for them.

You don't need to stop federation. You don't need device attestation. These don't benefit the user. They are only there to give the platforms more control.

Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by dzikimarian on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @02:16AM (#32408335)
I used Google Talk actively at the time. Don't recall any spam.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by aembleton on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @02:20AM (#32408358)
How hard is it to generate new device identifiers?