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Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by dcormier on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @06:24PM (#32405302)
That’s very ableist of you.

About 1 in 12 males are colorblind. I’m in this group.

I find white text on a bright green background very difficult to read.

Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by psyc on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:43PM (#32406121)
This comment says almost exactly the same thing without the first sentence. This trend of everyone calling everyone else a something-ist can’t die fast enough.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by muttled on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @05:04PM (#32418437)
I know it's awful that I thought of this, but I half-expected your second sentence to call him a label-ist.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by dcormier on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @07:27AM (#32410219)
You’re right. I should’ve left it off. I was frustrated.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by cgrealy on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @06:32PM (#32405403)
Which is why there are accessibility settings for exactly that.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by chizhik-pyzhik on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @06:38PM (#32405472)
sure, but why keep an inaccessible default?
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by radicaldreamer on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @06:59PM (#32405710)
Because it doesn’t affect everyone and aesthetics are not equal to accessibility?

I do agree that the green bubbles aren’t great looking but thats what they chose for iOS even prior to iMessage existing.

Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by nkozyra on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:16PM (#32405886)
> Because it doesn’t affect everyone

This isn't a good answer. We can use sensible attractive UI/UX defaults without being exclusive.

Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by bentcorner on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:24PM (#32405968)
> Because it doesn’t affect everyone and aesthetics are not equal to accessibility?

The thing with accessibility is that it does affect everyone.

If you get woken up by a call and open iMessage in the middle of the night, being able to read the message accurately while blinking away eye gunk matters.

Better contrast helps you read your text message if your phone is on a table across from you lying flat.

There's going to be times you're trying to read a message and your phone won't be 100% in front of you at arms length and you are able to take the time to bring the phone into focus with proper lighting around you.

Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by inferiorhuman on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:48PM (#32406186)

  If you get woken up by a call and open iMessage in the middle of the night,
  being able to read the message accurately while blinking away eye gunk matters.
The only green text bubbles are for text you send via SMS. Incoming text is styled the same regardless of protocol.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by raxxorraxor on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @03:38AM (#32408840)
I would happily use the eye gunk excuse for everyone contacting me at night. I probably find that word more funny because I just learned it and I am not a native speaker.

I still believe this is an issue. Colorblind or not, everyone probably has had difficulties reading their phone in direct sunlight. But these are seriously not insurmountable technical problems at all and the excuse is pretty weak.

Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by bee_rider on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @09:07PM (#32406757)
I turned on the "increase contrast" accessibility feature just because it makes the green background color on those messages look nicer. Just do it. It isn't like they check to to see if you are diagnosed with colorblindness or whatever.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by water554 on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:30PM (#32406020)
I am a colorblind male and I apologize on behalf of colorblind people using the word ableist. The bubble text is fine for me.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by azinman2 on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @06:27PM (#32405349)
It’s the text you send, not incoming, so you don’t need to read it much. There’s also various accessibility features to help with color across the os.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by rootusrootus on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @06:34PM (#32405414)
Not only that, but these are complaints coming from non-iPhone users, by definition, which means it is totally up to Android what color their messages are displayed in.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by paranoidrobot on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:27PM (#32405989)
iPhone User texts Android user - the iPhone user sees their outbound message as green on white.

This is not up to Android, it is up to Apple how their UX displays texts to non-Apple users.

Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by DoneWithAllThat on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:45PM (#32406143)
Are 1 in 12 colorblind in a way that makes the white on green difficult to read

What if 3 in 12 who aren’t colorblind find it easier to read white on green?

Not everything is worthy of a social justice battle.

Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by viktorcode on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @04:00AM (#32409014)
On iPhone you can enable one of several system-wide colour modes designed for colour-blind. Give it a try.
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by joes_hk on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @06:27PM (#32405341)
So making the bubble blue instead of green without changing the protocol would be already ok for you? How do you cope with this right now, do you and your social group use alternatives to iMessage like signal or telegram?
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by peyton on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:22PM (#32405943)
You read the messages you send?
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by vineyardmike on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @07:43PM (#32406120)
You don’t?
Re:“It’s time for Apple to fix texting” by phinnaeus on Wednesday August 10, 2022 @12:15AM (#32407797)
Not after I send them...