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Re:Ask HN: What's the next big thing that few people are tal... by cauthon on Monday August 08, 2022 @01:09PM (#32388205)
> since the amount of variation in height that's attributable to environmental factors might make that fundamentally impossible

Yes, that is my point.

Both intelligence and attractiveness have a significant amount of variation attributable to environmental or other external factors, and have the additional complication that they cannot be measured by a single objective unit (like height can).

> do you think that in 20 years we'll have no ability to predict height or intelligence from a genome

The quantification of intelligence is notoriously confounded by socioeconomic factors. I do not think talking about predicting a feature makes sense while we are currently unable to describe it well.

IMO dedicating funding to improving child care, healthcare+diet, and k-12 education will have a much greater impact on increasing a society's measures of intelligence and educational attainment. There's much stronger evidence that these factors are associated with improved outcomes. But, the work isn't "sexy" and doesn't come with a sci-fi flair.

Kind of like ignoring climate work in favor of Mars colonization. There seems to be a cultural bias in tech towards moonshot panaceas vs doing the unglamorous grind. It makes me think of the Bill Gates quote that "a lazy person will find an easy way to do a hard job," and while that's valuable in some contexts I don't think it's universally applicable.

Re:Ask HN: What's the next big thing that few people are tal... by whimsicalism on Monday August 08, 2022 @06:45PM (#32392067)
> The quantification of intelligence is notoriously confounded by socioeconomic factors. I do not think talking about predicting a feature makes sense while we are currently unable to describe it well.

If we are doing this selection of IVF embryos it is feasible to control for these confounding factors.

> IMO dedicating funding to improving child care, healthcare+diet, and k-12 education will have a much greater impact on increasing a society's measures of intelligence and educational attainment. There's much stronger evidence that these factors are associated with improved outcomes. But, the work isn't "sexy" and doesn't come with a sci-fi flair.

Source? Isn't intelligence in adulthood more correlated with your parents than any of these environmental factors? That was at least what I had recalled from twin adoption studies.

Re:Ask HN: What's the next big thing that few people are tal... by xyzzyz on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @12:24AM (#32394130)
> IMO dedicating funding to improving child care, healthcare+diet, and k-12 education will have a much greater impact on increasing a society's measures of intelligence and educational attainment.

Maybe if you do it in North Korea, but US/Europe are already pretty much "maxed out" here. You can always improve things on the margin, but you're not going to see substantial gains of even d = 0.5 magnitude.

Re:Ask HN: What's the next big thing that few people are tal... by ROTMetro on Monday August 08, 2022 @05:36PM (#32391357)
Show the military why this is needed and you might get some funding action, that is after all how we got a school lunch program.

https://www.ilsna.net/resources/schoolnutrition/historyschoo....

Re:Ask HN: What's the next big thing that few people are tal... by scarmig on Monday August 08, 2022 @06:43PM (#32392055)
Have you applied the same statistical rigor to the evidence that improved child care, healthcare+diet, and k-12 education improve intelligence and educational attainment leads to intelligence increases as you do for genetic arguments?