IF we would have the number of how many times the driver would have been hurt if he did not take control then we could have a better guess how many kilometers a Tesla would self drive until would kill or hurt you,
https://medium.com/@MidwesternHedgi/teslas-driver-fatality-r...
If you question was if self driving is safer then humans the answers sr probably no, if it were even close Tesla would have shown the numbers not kepp them hidden.
Perfection is not a requirement for advancement.
No they are. They won't break out FSD and they 100% could
> their autopilot data suggests it's safer than human pilots on highways
Their autopilot data compared to every single type of car, with every single type of driver, only on highways.
So we're comparing every 1994 Corolla with a teenage driver to every 2021 EV with a 30 yr old driver.
The reality is AP should really be compared to modern cars which tend to come with LKAS and AEBm and stats should be adjusted to reflect the differing driver populations.
But Tesla would rather throw up comparisons that make themselves look good, but only past muster if you don't think about it too much.
Is there new data I missed? Last I was aware Telsa had published data comparing autopilot to human drivers, but not adjusting for road type, weather, road condition, construction, and any number of other factors in addition to the ones you mentioned.
So basically Telsa determined that autopilot on easy-mode driving (highway, clear enough conditions for autopilot to be willing to operate), with a human backup, has less crashes per-mile than humans in the full range of conditions (including those where autopilot will opt out) with no backup.
If that's not an example of "lies, damn lies, and statistics" I don't know what is.
The narrow section excludes older vehicles, skews away from the most at risk demographics of drivers, removes the toughest highway situations from the equation since AP will disengage, the list goes on.
Conclusion FSD is better then humans.
Nobody said that installing a good drive assistant is less safe, the issue is with idiots using this stats to imply the AI itself is better then human drivers wich is a bad conclusion to draw from this.
To prove FSD is better then humans, send a Tesla from A to B and note hoe many kilometers until it screws up. Repeat 1000 times then do the same experiment with 1000 humans. Don't forget to repeat after each update.
Go to Tesla subbreddit are all hard core fans are and read about this topic, you will see many example of users having issues with this feature, the FSD is not safe, it will kill you if you don't pay attention, it might kill some innocent person because some random dude is alpha testing updates and maybe is also live streaming it for fun.
I REPEAT, Tesla is not sharing the data so if someone is telling you that the AI alone is better then a human then he is lying, there is no data to show this.
I would bet Autopilot/FSD is unsafe alone(without the human ) and the issue then raises because of marketing where someone say rents a Tesla, he believes Elon and does not pay attention and kills someone. I seen even Tesla fanbos acknowledging that FSD is not safe and just read a comment where one such fanboy had to explain his relative that FSD is a scam and not to buy it. Also there is a post ATM on Tesla reddit about someone that does not trust his relative driving his car with the autopilot because this person is failing to pay attention when using the AI, the dude was asking how could he make it impossible for this relative that shares the car with to use the AI.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/bradtempleton/2020/10/28/new-te...
Also: you already have autopilot on the freeway: it's called cruise control + lane assist. That's not as sexy as saying autopilot though.
No, because it hasn't been demonstrated to even work as promised, let alone "isn't perfect".
Teslas drive like drunk drivers, whether using AP or FSD.
Tesla fans might feel like they are safer, but from the perspective of someone else on the road, they are objectively less safe, unless you consider swerving, randomly slamming on the brakes, and tailgating to be examples of safe driving.
And Tesla's AP system has more recorded fatalities than all of their competitors, combined. By the numbers, NHTSA data shows that Teslas are 50x more likely to get into an accident using AP or FSD than a Ford or Toyota; and the nearest legacy automaker is still 1/3rd as likely to get into an accident as a Tesla using AP/FSD.
Is that a AP/FSD thing? I ask only because just this weekend there was a Tesla on my rear bumper in a 30mph zone, and I had the cruise set to 34mph. I did wonder whether it was the computer, or if the driver was just an ass. Regardless, after a number of miles I grew tired of it, let's give 'em a healthy brake tap. Just enough to get the hint, I don't want anyone spilling coffee on themselves. So I give the brakes a good jab, and immediately back off.
Next thing I know, I hear the tire chirp of ABS kicking in, and I look in the rearview to see the Tesla stopped in the middle of the road. Oops, sorry (not sorry?), not exactly what I was going for. OTOH, maybe you or the car will quit riding people's asses now. And I'll admit I got a good chuckle out of it.
That data is also super misleading as they compare Autopilot highway crash rates with statistics for an average car (which is older and has fewer safety features than newer cars) that includes city driving (which is much less safe than highway driving). It's designed to advertise Autopilot as safer than it really is. In reality, it's about as safe as any new car with standard safety features (AEB, collision avoidance, lane keep etc).
And that doesn't include the thousands of accidents related to Tesla's AP/FSD systems.
Tesla's advanced driving systems are objectively less safe than teenage or drunk drivers, by miles driven, and the sooner AP/FSD is banned, the better.