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Re:California DMV accuses Tesla of making false claims about... by dekhn on Monday August 08, 2022 @11:27AM (#32386637)
True, but a few years ago they had a huge problem with Model3 and ModelY quality- you had to be very careful and inspect the whole car for serious problems before accepting delivery.
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Re:California DMV accuses Tesla of making false claims about... by adoxyz on Monday August 08, 2022 @11:34AM (#32386759)
lol if you look at any Tesla forums, this is still very much the case with all cars they make. The refreshed Model X seems to be hot garbage from a quality control stand point.
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Re:California DMV accuses Tesla of making false claims about... by panick21_ on Monday August 08, 2022 @02:32PM (#32389192)
Tesla forum is literally the perfect example of selection bias.
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Re:California DMV accuses Tesla of making false claims about... by washbrain on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @01:53AM (#32394623)
Except it's not. If there were no defects, there would be no defects reported on the forums. The number of cars sold is public.

The parent isn't suggesting looking at the ratio of happy and sad posters, which would definitely be selection bias, they are saying look at the rate and severity of complaints on it's own.

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Re:California DMV accuses Tesla of making false claims about... by panick21_ on Tuesday August 09, 2022 @04:17AM (#32395410)
If you have a defect you are about 1000x more likely to go to the forum.

Of course there are defects, at that volume that would be expected.

Parent didn't say anything about rates.

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