US Bill Creating the Great Firewall of America

Re:US Bill Creating the Great Firewall of America by twoodfin on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @10:22AM (#3238472)

So, when, "formally speaking" did the U.S. become a fascist state, in your opinion? No need to name the day, a rough decade span would be fine.

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Re:US Bill Creating the Great Firewall of America by muhfuhkuh on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @11:31AM (#3238791)

I think it's the 60s, as the drumbeat of Vietnam was approaching, sparked by the assassination of both Kennedy brothers. The so-called End of Innocence for America, the Killing of Camelot. It's when we learned that dissent on even the highest pulpit will be silenced.

We were warned before then by Eisenhower in his final Presidential address, but the tail end of the 60s was likely when Americans started to realize that we could not stop the rush. Endless money and inscrutable power will be forever intertwined, from the Medici's silent rule of Italy to now, where a few million dollars donated to the policeman's union by JP Morgan can buy the emptying of Zuccotti park and put the kibosh on the months-long Occupy movement.

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Re:US Bill Creating the Great Firewall of America by mortenjorck on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @11:48AM (#3238867)

where a few million dollars donated to the policeman's union by Goldman Sachs can buy the emptying of Zuccotti park

It's certainly not hard to imagine this (all you need are a few Valchek characters at some important desks), but do you have a citation for this?

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Re:US Bill Creating the Great Firewall of America by muhfuhkuh on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @12:34PM (#3239132)

While the connection between the "bribe" and the deed are speculation at best, there is no doubt that bankers made the donation and announced just a month into OWS. It was actually JP Morgan Chase that donated 4.6 million[1] (I've amended my comment to reflect that).

[1]http://www.nakedcapitalism.com/2011/10/is-jp-morgan-getting-...

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Re:US Bill Creating the Great Firewall of America by sp332 on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @12:26PM (#3239091)

Not sure about the GS connection, but this page went up at the beginning of October http://www.jpmorganchase.com/corporate/Home/article/ny-13.ht...

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Re:US Bill Creating the Great Firewall of America by jonah on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @02:00PM (#3239565)

A couple background pieces on the increasing influence of money in politics and the disconnect between policy and the social good:

http://www.mindfully.org/Reform/2004/Republican-Propaganda1s...

http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/how-the-gop-became...

These focus on the Republican party but much of the same can be said of the Democrats as well.

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Re:US Bill Creating the Great Firewall of America by einhverfr on Tuesday November 15, 2011 @11:47PM (#3241822)

I trace it to WWII, actually. The war effort meant giving a lot of corporations a lot of help. Afterwards, that could never stop.

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