Re:Why general artificial intelligence will not be realized ...
by kelseyfrog on Saturday August 06, 2022 @03:48PM
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We're going to keep having these even after computers pass the Turing test aren't we?
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Re:Why general artificial intelligence will not be realized ...
by mdp2021 on Saturday August 06, 2022 @03:52PM
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The "Turing test" per se is not a good test. (As it increasingly appears. Unless one lives in the "outside" state the writer of the submitted page theorizes)
Re:Why general artificial intelligence will not be realized ...
by mindcrime on Saturday August 06, 2022 @05:22PM
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I've come to strongly dislike the idea of the "Turing Test" and agree that it's not a good test. IMO, all it's really doing is testing our ability to create a computer than can lie effectively. That does not seem to me to be the most useful thing to focus on.
Re:Why general artificial intelligence will not be realized ...
by mdp2021 on Saturday August 06, 2022 @05:33PM
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> than can lie effectively
Sure. And of course, do not forget that the testers are known for a disposition of potentially being fooled - and that we are still, collectively, societally, civilization-wise, generally unable to do proper selection.
Re:Why general artificial intelligence will not be realized ...
by Oarch on Saturday August 06, 2022 @03:59PM
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Good thing we still have Voigt-Kampf in our back pockets.
Re:Why general artificial intelligence will not be realized ...
by mindcrime on Saturday August 06, 2022 @05:24PM
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The tortoise lays on its back, its belly baking in the hot sun, beating its legs trying to turn itself over, but it can't. Not without your help. But you're not helping.
Re:Why general artificial intelligence will not be realized ...
by mdp2021 on Sunday August 07, 2022 @12:56AM
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«Would the tortoise be you, Mr. Holden? I approve of that.»
Which is not in the script, unfortunately. Had not to be, because it was just a construed example of a successful Turing test. If not for the turn of events that a human may be made upset by the assumptions, but the mockery test was stated as intended to «provoke an emotional response», and juicily the invented machine, having failed all "common sense" reactions, responds exactly like a proper human to that.