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Re:EVs cost 22% less to service than ICE cars, new data shows by kleiba on Friday August 05, 2022 @03:15PM (#32360644)
I live in Europe, I usually have to park my car way down the road. Am I supposed to run an extension cord from my house to my parking spot every night? The infrastructure for EV is not on par with classic gas stations for those who do not have a garage close to their house.
Re:EVs cost 22% less to service than ICE cars, new data shows by ageitgey on Friday August 05, 2022 @06:24PM (#32362678)
In my neighborhood in London (maybe everywhere in London?), most of the lampposts by on-street parking have charging ports [1]. So you just park near a lamppost and plug in at night. There's a QR code you scan, then you click on a web page and it starts charging. Pretty cheap and easy. It's honestly easier than going to a gas station.

So in my experience, having an electric car in London is super convenient. There's myriad ways to charge it and increasingly good rapid charging options along major routes. But I'm sure that's not everyone's experience in every neighborhood or city. Hopefully things keep improving as rapidly as they have been.

NB: I have seen someone in London string a charging cable up through their non-ground-floor apartment window once, but only once :)

[1] https://www.ubitricity.com/charge-points-uk/

Re:EVs cost 22% less to service than ICE cars, new data shows by kleiba on Saturday August 06, 2022 @11:06AM (#32368753)
That's the kind of infrastructure that needs to be available everywhere to make EV charging a viable alternative to classic gas stations. I expect this to be commonplace everywhere, bar any ubiquitous underground wireless charging facility. But unlike the UK, the country I currently live in seems to be 10 to 15 years behind in all technical developments, so I don't expect anything like the London experience to materialize around here any time soon.

Plus, while what you say is probably feasible for bigger cities, I'm not convinced yet that small to medium sized cities will introduce something similar anytime soon, or is it the case in the UK?

Just out of curiosity: how far apart are the lamp posts in London? How difficult is it to actually get a parking spot by one? Can more than one car in the vicinity of a lamp post charge their car or only one per post?

Re:EVs cost 22% less to service than ICE cars, new data shows by KennyBlanken on Friday August 05, 2022 @03:27PM (#32360819)
In an urban situation you're supposed to plug your EV into the CCS charger which can charge at up to 350kW. Hyundai/Kia, Porsche, Audi, and a growing number of other companies make 800v cars that charge to ~80% in under 20 minutes.

Or, you use a carshare, and the car is located in a garage/lot where it spends every minute it's not in use plugged into a charger.

EVs aren't a solution to the unsustainability of individual car ownership in high population density areas.

Re:EVs cost 22% less to service than ICE cars, new data shows by kleiba on Friday August 05, 2022 @03:37PM (#32360934)
I'm not in an urban environment, and the part about "under 20 minutes" is what I'd call "not on par with classic gas stations".

There's no (usable) car sharing services that I'm aware of where I live.

Re:EVs cost 22% less to service than ICE cars, new data shows by butterknife on Friday August 05, 2022 @03:32PM (#32360872)
Put a pressure on your employer to install chargers.
Re:EVs cost 22% less to service than ICE cars, new data shows by kleiba on Friday August 05, 2022 @03:36PM (#32360912)
My employer is the government, they don't even provide enough parking spaces for all employees. There's a waiting list.