Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by bluGill on Thursday August 04, 2022 @02:48PM
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The US freight railways have priced wiring their rails. It is possible to do this, and double stacked containers are not a problem (except for a few bridges that are already borderline for being high enough). Problem is it is only worth it if you have every rail electrified, just a short section in some out of the way rarely used rail that isn't wired is enough that they have to have diesel locomotives everywhere just in case they want to send that train to the one unwired track. And so it doesn't pencil out until diesel gets substantially higher and remains there.
That is according to the railroad. There are others who question the math, which is a valid thing to do, though I don't know who is right. In any case it is possible to wire all US freight, but so far nobody has done it.
Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by bombcar on Thursday August 04, 2022 @05:40PM
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Electrified rails don't prevent diesel locomotives rolling down them, so if it was cost effective right now to electrify the most active lines, they'd do it.
So far, it is not.
Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by Symbiote on Thursday August 04, 2022 @01:46PM
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You need to consider sea and river transport if you compare Europe to the USA for freight. A big chunk of the bulk goods market (coal, stone/ore, grain) is moved by water in Europe: https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Modal-Split-of-Freight-T...
And India runs electric double-stack container trains, but of course it would be an enormous upgrade project to convert to this -- tunnels and bridges more than the wires: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNq8lP6cfL4
So in short, electric freight trains are not 'disruptive'; they don't compete with diesel freight trains unless you have enough political pressure to prioritize passenger trains above diesel freight trains.