Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by goethes_kind on Thursday August 04, 2022 @09:17AM
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The advantage of batteries is that you can manufacture them into any form and in case of cars, you can just hide them under the floor.
Fine, works well enough in that particular use case.
Does not discredit the what I said at all. There are many other applications where the volume and weight of the battery would make it unfeasible.
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Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by jsight on Thursday August 04, 2022 @02:32PM
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A lot of trucks have even more available space and headroom for excess weight.
The biggest applications where the volume and weight come into play aren't on the roads.
Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by MichaelCollins on Thursday August 04, 2022 @11:20AM
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> The advantage of batteries is that you can manufacture them into any form
Can you really though? For EVs they're all using the classic cylindrical shape as far as I've seen.
Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by bluGill on Thursday August 04, 2022 @03:03PM
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You are confusing cells with batteries. A battery is a collection of cells. This difference is rarely important and so few people ever make it. In this context is matters as a EV has many small cells in the battery. You can put those cells anywhere they fit. You can't split an engine up like that. Thus while the battery itself needs more volume and weight than an engine (or at least that is the claim, depending on range desired this might or might not be true), you can put them in empty space where an engine cannot fit.
Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by vel0city on Thursday August 04, 2022 @11:39AM
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Its largely Tesla that is using the cylinder shape batteries. It seems to me most of the other manufacturers are using prismatic cells.
Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by HPsquared on Thursday August 04, 2022 @11:35AM
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Batteries, not cells
Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by MichaelCollins on Thursday August 04, 2022 @11:43AM
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Battery.. packs? The cells are the batteries.
It's like conflating gasoline with gasoline tanks.
Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by HPsquared on Thursday August 04, 2022 @05:03PM
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A battery is a bunch of cells. Etymology is from an earlier meaning, artillery battery (a bunch of cannons together acting as a unit).
Re:Hyundai rolls out 27 heavy-duty hydrogen trucks in Germany
by imtringued on Saturday August 06, 2022 @07:56AM
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battery comes from the verb "to batter", which basically means "to bombard"