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Re:Introduction to Apple Silicon by GeekyBear on Monday August 01, 2022 @07:08PM (#32313277)
> The problem with these 100% vertically integrated stacks is that every hardware release could be completely different and it'll take years to catch up with just that release. In the intervening time more hardware generations were released

>At this point, it's pretty likely that M2 will be at feature parity with M1 with <24h of actual work.

https://twitter.com/marcan42/status/1542957901651685376

Re:Introduction to Apple Silicon by lostmsu on Monday August 01, 2022 @07:43PM (#32313565)
M2 is also basically the same chip.
Re:Introduction to Apple Silicon by GeekyBear on Monday August 01, 2022 @08:03PM (#32313725)
Which makes the scaremongering about it theoretically taking years to add support for a next generation chip sound especially silly.
Re:Introduction to Apple Silicon by blinkingled on Monday August 01, 2022 @09:34PM (#32314259)
Well keep in mind that even M1 2+ years since its release is not yet fully supported enough to make it a daily driver with Linux. And it is not exactly a given.
Re:Introduction to Apple Silicon by ace2358 on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @07:14AM (#32317238)
Seems like it’s reaching that point for Linus

>On a personal note, the most interesting part here is that I did the release (and am writing this) on an arm64 laptop. It's something I've been waiting for for a _loong_ time, and it's finally reality, thanks to the Asahi team. We've had arm64 hardware around running Linux for a long time, but none of it has really been usable as a development platform until now.

https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/CAHk-=wgrz5BBk=rCz7W28Fj_o02s0X...

Re:Introduction to Apple Silicon by blinkingled on Wednesday August 03, 2022 @10:15AM (#32331967)
> Not that I've used it for any real work, I literally have only been doing test builds and boots and now the actual release tagging.

Linus mostly compiles kernels and merges things and maybe replies to emails using a terminal, which is very different than most non-kernel development folks' idea of daily driveable. There's the whole GPU thing for example.

As a different reminder - Linux never worked really all that well on Apple's x86 hardware in the recent past!

Also as an compare and contrast - Lenovo has a dedicated Linux team to support Linux on standard x86 hardware - https://www.phoronix.com/news/Lenovo-Linux-2022-State - so does Dell. It takes a lot more than oh we will merely make sure other OS is a policy and rest is left to you to figure out OtherOS folks.

Re:Introduction to Apple Silicon by webmobdev on Monday August 01, 2022 @10:25PM (#32314504)
The parts are clearly cross-compatible and we’re again faced with what seems like an attempt to block repairs and replacements through software barriers. - https://www.ifixit.com/News/62684/were-pretty-sure-we-just-t...
Re:Introduction to Apple Silicon by minimaul on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @04:11AM (#32316243)
That's a pretty misleading quote out of context (and to be honest, it's not great even with context - there's no real grounds for iFixit to make that assertion) - Apple made changes at the hardware & software level to how the touchpad & keyboard work - offloading more functionality to the main SoC, changing the comms protocol, etc.

There's no evidence at all that it is an attempt to block repairs with older hardware.

edit: if you think about it, it's even more awkward for Apple - now they have to have two sets of parts inventory for repairs, etc. It doesn't really make sense to do that unless you have a technical justification.