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Re:Raw footage inside Sears with Atari 800 and 2600 (1982) [... by cesaref on Monday August 01, 2022 @02:49AM (#32302865)
Not only that, but also a Vectrex! The technology was so impressive in the early 80s in arcade games that used it, my first experience of proper 3d graphics effects (e.g. battlezone and star wars). I'm not sure how the colour support worked on the star wars machine thinking about it...
Re:Raw footage inside Sears with Atari 800 and 2600 (1982) [... by bsenftner on Monday August 01, 2022 @07:16AM (#32304405)
I worked for the company that made the Vetrex in the mid 90's. By that time they'd become the company for bowling and similar physics based games. Jay Smith, owner of the company, wrote all the physics sims himself, in Excel, which we the programmers translated to C.
Re:Raw footage inside Sears with Atari 800 and 2600 (1982) [... by bitwize on Monday August 01, 2022 @04:02AM (#32303280)
My guess is the same way color raster CRTs work: there's an aperture grille or shadow mask and three electron guns, and the grille masks off the beam of each gun except for where it's supposed to hit its corresponding color phosphors. Color mixing is performed by tracing over the same vector lines with more than one gun.

If you look carefully at a Star Wars arcade machine, you can see the shadow mask in the vector lines. You cannot see this on, say, an Asteroids machine or a Vectrex; on those, the lines are smooth and sharper than a draftsman's straightedge.

Everyone should experience an original Asteroids, or failing that something like the Vectrex, at least once in their lives. It's indescribably different from emulation; the long-decay phosphor and direct CPU control over brightness means that shots and explosions glitter in the dark in a way not even MAME can replicate.

Re:Raw footage inside Sears with Atari 800 and 2600 (1982) [... by cbm-vic-20 on Monday August 01, 2022 @08:12AM (#32304875)
Another anecdote about the original Asteroids machines- the dynamic brightness of the vector displays added a great effect: the asteroids themselves were sort of grayish lines with very sharp, crisp edges, but shots fired from alien spaceships were searingly bright, and would and up also exciting the phoshor around the shot itself, lending a bit of a halo effect.
Re:Raw footage inside Sears with Atari 800 and 2600 (1982) [... by joezydeco on Monday August 01, 2022 @10:38AM (#32306583)
Jed Margolin, Atari engineer, wrote the ultimate papers on how the Atari vector games worked. These two pieces are excellent reading when you have the time:

The Secret Life of XY Monitors : http://jedmargolin.com/xy/xymons.htm

The Secret Life of Vector Generators : http://jedmargolin.com/vgens/vgmenu.htm

The first covers how the tube worked, the second covers how the Atari systems generated the graphics to show on-screen.

Re:Raw footage inside Sears with Atari 800 and 2600 (1982) [... by Bluecobra on Monday August 01, 2022 @11:22AM (#32307312)
Also the Retro Game Mechanics Explained channel on YouTube has a very well put together video about this as well:

https://youtu.be/smStEPSRKBs

Re:Raw footage inside Sears with Atari 800 and 2600 (1982) [... by kzrdude on Monday August 01, 2022 @03:32AM (#32303146)
This slow mo video of a vector graphics arcade machine recently introduced me to this technology - I was a bit too young to actually be there in person, so never realized that this kind of CRT (?) drawing technology even existed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJVpYL44jUQ

Re:Raw footage inside Sears with Atari 800 and 2600 (1982) [... by cbanek on Monday August 01, 2022 @09:18AM (#32305532)
Friend of mine that I worked with had a Vectrex! I was also blown away seeing this, it was such a neat machine. That was back in the day when video game systems hum was a definitive part of the experience.
Re:Raw footage inside Sears with Atari 800 and 2600 (1982) [... by account42 on Monday August 01, 2022 @09:53AM (#32305948)
I'm too young to have used a Vectrex, but I like this demo that it inspired:

VX2 by Spectrals https://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=85304