Re:A looming copper crunch and why recycling can’t fix it
by petre on Monday August 01, 2022 @12:50AM
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How do you resolve phase imbalances? Most generators are 3 phase. The system is othrewise well designed to use one or two phases when needed. We use one or three phass in Europe.
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Re:A looming copper crunch and why recycling can’t fix it
by eru on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:27AM
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Different circuits in a single American household use different phases, I think.
Re:A looming copper crunch and why recycling can’t fix it
by Scoundreller on Monday August 01, 2022 @01:43AM
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Correct. Fun times trying to figure out why your power-line networking doesn't work.
The heavy load stuff is 240V anyway.
Re:A looming copper crunch and why recycling can’t fix it
by petre on Monday August 01, 2022 @04:09AM
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So it's the same way we do it in Europe with single phase, but I think it's easier to split three phases between single phase loads (most AC loads in a hosehold), rather than three phases between two phase loads (a few AC loads in a household). I still like the 120V plug connector with a key on the hot wire. In Europe I always wire the hot on the right hand side of the Schuko socket, as most standards have it on the right.
Re:A looming copper crunch and why recycling can’t fix it
by eru on Monday August 01, 2022 @05:44AM
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American outlets and plugs are barely usable. They go live even when you don't completely plug them in, yet.
The British plug is a pretty decent design from an electrical safety point of view. (However, they turn into caltrops in the dark.)
Re:A looming copper crunch and why recycling can’t fix it
by petre on Monday August 01, 2022 @06:36AM
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> The British plug is a pretty decent design from an electrical safety point of view
It's needlessly huge. I like type J (SN 441011, Swiss plug) and type N (IEC 60906-1, South Africa).
Re:A looming copper crunch and why recycling can’t fix it
by eru on Monday August 01, 2022 @06:52AM
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Yes, both of those would also work.
It's just that the American plugs are really the worst. See also https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_q-xnYRugQ for other badness.