What do you mean? Wayland obviously isn't useless without GNOME.

On my Thinkpad T60, Wayland is useless with and without GNOME. It just doesn't work, and nobody on the project gives a shit. So, instead of shelling out for a new computer when the one I have works fine, I stick with X11.

Fuck Wayland.

Everytime I ask for help with broken Wayland (which it is OOB across hardware and distros), I'm told it can only be me, because it works for some. Apparently Wayland is worth shilling over for some.

Fortunately Xorg works splendidly.

Forces far greater than you have decided that Wayland is the go-forward solution. Therefore, you will live in the pod, eat the bugs, and use the compositor because all the maintenance and advancement effort is behind Wayland.

I refuse.

If everyone cancelled free software because it wouldn't run on windows or Mac OS we wouldn't have very much of it.

Why do you expect that your laptop from 2006 need to be supported by wayland ?

Why are you angry on wayland ? Because they try to make things better for normal people ?

I like how you can say this about literally any complaint or feature request. It's the perfect deflection!

Your comment is deflection and straw man. Why Wayland should support 15 years laptops? Why do you think it is reasonable to shitpost on an open source project because it refuses to bend over backwards for you?

I'm not asking for full-on 3D acceleration with vsync. Just use the fucking VESA framebuffer instead of making my laptop look like it snow crashed. People should not have to throw out otherwise working hardware because a bunch of nerds who weren't bullied enough in high school don't feel like putting in some effort.

Then use the old version of Linux that works with your hardware. Why other people should care about your ancient hardware. You can either fund work to provide support or write code yourself and see how easy it is.

I was using until recently Sandy Bridge platform, and It works fine. I am not expecting that it would be supported forever. There is a lot of performance and maintainability left on the table because of support for old devices. If anything, I wish for Linux world for more aggressive deprecation policy.

> People should not have to throw out otherwise working hardware because a bunch of nerds who weren't bullied enough in high school don't feel like putting in some effort.

You can just leave Linux community, nobody will miss you.

It doesn't work if the person has a modern laptop.