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Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by prodigal_erik on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:10PM (#3229873)
It's very disturbing that a dollar auction on absolutely nothing isn't even the most unethical tactic I've seen … this week.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by rjvir on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:18PM (#3229890)
We are transparent about the fact that there is no tangible benefit to bidding.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by prodigal_erik on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:31PM (#3229916)
If only the winner pays, it's just a silly game. But when the losers also pay, it becomes a genuinely abusive exploit of human irrationality which most people are not aware of. Please take it down.

http://www.mediate.com/articles/noll1.cfm

http://www.heretical.com/pound/dollarl.html

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/nova/body/mind-over-money.html

Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by csallen on Sunday November 13, 2011 @02:35AM (#3230257)
Except none of those are good analogies to what's going on here, where people aren't actually bidding on something of monetary value. I find it hard to buy your argument that this is in any way unethical.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by Tichy on Sunday November 13, 2011 @01:12PM (#3231358)
The losers are winners until another winner comes along.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by drivebyacct2 on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:38AM (#3230084)
Lots of huge businesses are based on irrationality. Cigarettes, gambling, etc. A fool and their money are easily parted.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by scrod on Sunday November 13, 2011 @02:17AM (#3230226)
And those businesses are accordingly regulated by society. But good luck trying to foster that winner-takes-all free-market world of yours. I'm sure it'll be a real blast.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by LVB on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:10AM (#3230005)
To those of you who are just dying to type your credit card information into a website right now, I'd like to suggest http://www.kiva.org instead.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by run4yourlives on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:37AM (#3230082)
pfft... Kiva doesn't tell me I'm rich! For only a buck and a quarter, I can get my name on the site!
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by inuhj on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:16AM (#3230024)
Similar to the "I am rich." app released on the app store so long ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Am_Rich was art. I'm not sure if I think your site is imitation or art as well.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by artursapek on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:18AM (#3230029)
I remember that as the best news story when the app store launched.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by Arro on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:42PM (#3229955)
All these negative comments are a good thing. You've made something that polarizes people. I'd take that any day over something that makes people say "meh".
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by latch on Saturday November 12, 2011 @10:38PM (#3229795)
If I understand it, it's a pretty horrible idea. For a lot of reasons. But, the most obvious, is how easy it'll be for you to game it. When someone makes a bid, you can simply outbid them but not actually pay any money.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by rjvir on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:13PM (#3229882)
I see your concern, but we haven't done this yet - we have no reason to. There is no actual reward for being the "richest", we could care less as to who claims the title.

If we ever auto-outbid people, they would find out right away, and wouldn't return to the site.

Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by latch on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:19PM (#3229894)

  we could care less as to who claims the title
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Auction#Chandelier_bidding

Also, how would people find out? You just need to "be smart" about it. Don't always use the same username, change how long you wait.

Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by alsocasey on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:35AM (#3230076)
Anonymous submissions are allowed... so it could be you hit the nail on the head and they are doing this right now (and simply publicly denying for obvious reasons).
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by treelovinhippie on Saturday November 12, 2011 @10:43PM (#3229810)
Oh gawd, please remove yourself from the Internet. You're disqualified.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by rjvir on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:13PM (#3229883)
Ok, I'll try!
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by Urgo on Saturday November 12, 2011 @10:48PM (#3229825)
The real richest on the web is you from this. Reminds me of Million Dollar Homepage. Great idea :)
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by Finbarr on Saturday November 12, 2011 @10:58PM (#3229849)
First thing that came to my mind. Really gimmicky idea that could see the creator make a pretty penny if it catches on.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by Urgo on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:02PM (#3229860)
Exactly. I mean I'm not bidding on it. But I wasn't one of the people who helped milliondollarhomepage.com reach its goal and then some either :) I'm just calling it like it is, a really good idea worth trying :)
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by chintan100 on Sunday November 13, 2011 @04:06AM (#3230357)
First of all, congrats for polarizing crowds. :)

This can be a good way to increase your Twitter account visibility and hope to gain some followers through this site.

Right now, the bids are low but if this idea sustainable or not needs to be seen. You can hope to make it big if businesses find it a good way to advertise and promote products and product launches.

Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by Tichy on Sunday November 13, 2011 @07:07AM (#3230550)
Some time ago I registered 100EuroTweets which I guess was kind of a similar idea: you would be able to send messages to that account by paying 100€. Presumably people would follow the account to see who would be crazy enough to pay, and in turn the tweets would actually get some exposure for their money.

I never got round to implementing it, because I wanted it to be fully automated (checking a bank account), which is slightly complicated in Germany.

Anyway, it was just a silly idea in the spirit of the Million Dollar Page, for fun - just like yours, I guess. I actually like your variant better, I wouldn't be surprised if it turns out to be quite successful.

Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by simonbrown on Sunday November 13, 2011 @06:05AM (#3230491)
You're asking people to enter their credit card details on a non-SSL page?
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by jacobwg on Saturday November 12, 2011 @10:08PM (#3229719)
Care to elaborate on how this works? I couldn't find any about page (and the site's down now).

From what I could gather, this looked like "person-who-just-spent-their-fortune on the web". :)

Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by hendzen on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:36PM (#3229935)
If the money went to charity, this could actually have some potential.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by nxn on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:24AM (#3230044)
Why did the price go up when vowelnoun and netspencer were retweeted? https://twitter.com/richestontheweb
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by jasonostrander on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:52PM (#3229970)
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by Kenan on Saturday November 12, 2011 @10:42PM (#3229808)
On Firefox 7.0.1 on Windows 7, the bid overlay automatically comes up and blocks the leaderboard with no way of dimissing it. Works on Chrome 15.0.874.120, though ;)
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by rjvir on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:14PM (#3229885)
We used Twitter Bootstrap for the overlay, with the understanding that it may be unreliable. I'll look into a fix as soon as I can.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by Tichy on Sunday November 13, 2011 @07:37AM (#3230591)
If people have been paying in 1 cent increments, that site already made 80$ - not too shabby for a Hackathon project :-) (126*127/2 was my calculation).
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by itsnotvalid on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:28PM (#3229909)
The "RichestOnTheWeb" would then always be the hosting one as they always get the sum of all bids.

Of course who actually cares to bid?

Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by desireco42 on Saturday November 12, 2011 @10:45PM (#3229816)
I love the idea :) some of the comments from 'haterz' kind of make sense, let richest person leave a message
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by artursapek on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:22AM (#3230037)
The background is funky in the top 20 pixels or so. Also, this is a really unattractive idea.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by MrFacepalm on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:47AM (#3230096)
Rename it to 'richestFOOLontheweb'!
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by dylangs1030 on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:28AM (#3230050)
I don't mean to be critical, but your idea doesn't have any real point. It isn't selling a service or a product, which is a requirement of a startup company, especially in technology sectors. So I'm not saying it has no point, but what do you intend to do with the website? Where is it going?
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by hendzen on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:32AM (#3230064)
I didn't make this site, but this is something whipped up for a hackathon, not a real attempt at a company.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by d3x on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:56PM (#3229980)
You should rename it to dumbestontheweb
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by suivix on Saturday November 12, 2011 @10:26PM (#3229764)
Maybe you should make it the newest bidder can leave a message?
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by rjvir on Sunday November 13, 2011 @12:13AM (#3230018)
Yup, thats coming soon! We will show the newest bidder's most recent tweet.
Re:Show HN: RichestOnTheWeb - my submission to Hacka2thon by thigbee on Saturday November 12, 2011 @11:29PM (#3229911)
I think it's a fun idea. I do think there should be a FAQ or About page or something.