Re:When cities treated cars as dangerous intruders
by nerdponx on Sunday July 31, 2022 @11:42AM
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On the other hand, cyclists in the Netherlands are totally disrespectful of pedestrians, making it almost less walkable than New York City, where for the most part you don't have to worry about getting hit by a bike at every corner.
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Re:When cities treated cars as dangerous intruders
by woile on Sunday July 31, 2022 @11:56AM
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Amsterdam is perfectly walkable. I'm still more worried by every combustion powered vehicle, specially those who think they are above the rules. Motorbikes are becoming a problem, while a bike is not gonna kill you.
Re:When cities treated cars as dangerous intruders
by nerdponx on Monday August 01, 2022 @08:17AM
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It's possible that the cyclists are only hazardous in the touristy and busy old city. I had no trouble walking in the less-dense areas.
Re:When cities treated cars as dangerous intruders
by mancerayder on Sunday July 31, 2022 @12:06PM
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I disagree - see my other comment here. It might be part of a bigger Zeitgeist in NY, but pedestrians are bullied and disrespected at every level by cyclists. Danger increases further when bringing e bikes into the picture.
Re:When cities treated cars as dangerous intruders
by ska on Sunday July 31, 2022 @03:14PM
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I've walked a fair bit in both cities, and that just doesn't match my experience at all.
Additionally, when people talk about how walkabout NYC is, I suspect they only really mean a relatively small part of the metro area.
Re:When cities treated cars as dangerous intruders
by nerdponx on Monday August 01, 2022 @08:16AM
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Yes, they are definitely only talking about New York City itself and not the surrounding metro area. People mostly refer to the surrounding areas by other names, e.g. county names like Nassau County.
And even within the city, there are less-walkable areas, although for the most part there is bus coverage and sidewalks everywhere.