Re:Tim Hortons offers coffee and doughnut as proposed settle...
by rchaud on Friday July 29, 2022 @08:58PM
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These consumer facing apps always have the most barebone features (order from menu, earn/redeem loyalty points), yet they always seem to need a native app to deliver it instead of the mobile website.
Is it because customers are used to apps after a decade of "there's an app for that" marketing? Or is it because apps allow for always-on tracking that browsers don't allow?
On a website, the browswer will let you know each time the site is trying to track your location. In an app, you just need to give them permission once and they'll always use it.
For this reason, I use m.uber.com (if I have to use Uber at all).
Re:Tim Hortons offers coffee and doughnut as proposed settle...
by assttoasstmgr on Friday July 29, 2022 @10:42PM
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> Is it because customers are used to apps after a decade of "there's an app for that" marketing?
It's because we've conditioned an entire new generation of imbeciles with this as the bare minimum expectation. A web browser is deemed decidedly "old fashioned" to this group of people.
Case in point, I had a younger coworker openly mock and laugh at my use of a mobile website, "your app looks so old and archaic". He was right; it lacked the spinning animations, atrocious UX, and hoovering up of my contacts which has become the standard.
Re:Tim Hortons offers coffee and doughnut as proposed settle...
by kahnclusions on Saturday July 30, 2022 @04:55AM
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There are a couple reasons that compound together.
From the user’s perspective the native version can be faster, smoother, and more reliable than web. Part of the reason for this is that, on iOS at least, the functionality of web apps is deliberately held back by Apple in order to promote the App Store (where they earn a huge commission).
Native app users tend to convert better and spend more than web app users. This seems like a consequence of the previous point, but it’s an important one if you’re the one making business decisions.
You can also gather far more personal information on people with a native app… which is probably why you see all these pointless apps for companies which really have no business making apps. Look at the security analysis of TikTok’s apps for a shocking example of how much private information can be collected.
Re:Tim Hortons offers coffee and doughnut as proposed settle...
by amanaplanacanal on Friday July 29, 2022 @09:39PM
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At one point I supposedly had dozens of free concerts due me from Ticketmaster shenanigans. I was never able to actually find a show I wanted to watch though.
Re:Tim Hortons offers coffee and doughnut as proposed settle...
by joecot on Saturday July 30, 2022 @12:48AM
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I've been in 2 different class action lawsuits about vehicles: first Honda Civic Hybrids (where the battery always died like right after warranty ended), and a Nissan Versa with CVT transmissions (same but the transmission). Both ended with a slight extension of warranty that was no longer helpful to me, and a voucher for a few thousand off the next vehicle I bought from them. I never bought another vehicle from them.
Re:Tim Hortons offers coffee and doughnut as proposed settle...
by panda88888 on Saturday July 30, 2022 @03:29AM
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I think the interests would be much better aligned if the lawyers are required to accept the same “payment” as the consumers. Coffee and donuts? Sure, lawyers gets the equivalent of coffee and donuts as their share in the lawsuit.
Is it because customers are used to apps after a decade of "there's an app for that" marketing? Or is it because apps allow for always-on tracking that browsers don't allow?
On a website, the browswer will let you know each time the site is trying to track your location. In an app, you just need to give them permission once and they'll always use it.
For this reason, I use m.uber.com (if I have to use Uber at all).
It's because we've conditioned an entire new generation of imbeciles with this as the bare minimum expectation. A web browser is deemed decidedly "old fashioned" to this group of people.
Case in point, I had a younger coworker openly mock and laugh at my use of a mobile website, "your app looks so old and archaic". He was right; it lacked the spinning animations, atrocious UX, and hoovering up of my contacts which has become the standard.
From the user’s perspective the native version can be faster, smoother, and more reliable than web. Part of the reason for this is that, on iOS at least, the functionality of web apps is deliberately held back by Apple in order to promote the App Store (where they earn a huge commission).
Native app users tend to convert better and spend more than web app users. This seems like a consequence of the previous point, but it’s an important one if you’re the one making business decisions.
You can also gather far more personal information on people with a native app… which is probably why you see all these pointless apps for companies which really have no business making apps. Look at the security analysis of TikTok’s apps for a shocking example of how much private information can be collected.
Imagine if other crimes could be paid in the product involved in the crime.
Moving company stole your furniture? Well they will move your furniture for free next time
There's even a wiki entry on the practice.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coupon_settlement