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Re:Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X. by berkut on Saturday November 12, 2011 @12:14PM (#3228220)
> They changed that in Lion to every corner, every side. And you don't have to press ALT to do it.

You don't have to hold down ALT - you can do it without, holding down ALT increases the window edge hit area to make it easier to resize it.

> There's now a full-screen mode that takes care of that.

And makes using multiple monitors even more pathetic on OS X by effectively disabling other outputs - on top of the age-old problem of the menu for a window on a secondary monitor being displayed on the primary monitor, etc, etc...

Re:Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X. by SoftwareMaven on Saturday November 12, 2011 @01:08PM (#3228376)
the age-old problem of the menu for a window on a secondary monitor being displayed on the primary monitor

That sounds very easy to fix when talking in a forum, but I bet there are a million corner cases. Worse, real users (as opposed to people who can look around a web page when a button moves) would have a hard time. "I have two file menus now, I'm scared!"

OS X isn't perfect, but, for the problem it's trying to solve, it does a really good job. I still don't have a better alternative for my needs that range from scripting and compiling through photoshop and sales presentations. Especially one that works so reliably in a consumer environment.

I'm about to buy a new laptop. I've been putting a lot of thought into it, and Linux just isn't there yet (mostly 3rd party apps I need) and Windows lack of unix underpinnings means fighting Cygwin or running a VM all the time (though I'm finally starting to get the mid-to-late 90s taste of Microsoft out of my mouth :).

Re:Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X. by HSO on Saturday November 12, 2011 @12:19PM (#3228240)
> And makes using multiple monitors even more pathetic on OS X (the menu for a window on a secondary monitor being displayed on the primary monitor, etc, etc)...

Yes, that's one of my gripes too. Note that I didn't say OS X was perfect. I took issue with this pompous litany of faux issues.

Re:Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X. by pyre on Saturday November 12, 2011 @03:21PM (#3228791)

  > I took issue with this pompous litany of faux issues.
You are either accusing the poster of out-right deception in order to make OSX look back, or you are attacking the user for real issues that he/she came up against. Which is it?

(If it's the later, then I view this as the Mac version of the Linux literate telling new users to 'RTFM' instead of being helpful.)

Re:Tim O'Reilly: I am really starting to hate Mac OS X. by HSO on Sunday November 13, 2011 @05:27AM (#3230452)
Weder-noch (neither nor)!

I'd take the "pompous" back if I could. But yeah, "RTFM" (Mac edition); it's a good idea to put in some minimal search effort before writing a long list of pseudo-issues. There are real issues that could have been discussed instead and compared between systems to learn sth.