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Re:On “A Canticle for Leibowitz” by tablespoon on Thursday July 28, 2022 @06:01PM (#32270603)
> If the failure by “A Canticle for Leibowitz” to predict the nuclear holocaust tells us anything, it’s that this is indeed possible.

The nuclear holocaust wasn't really a prediction of that book; it was a premise.

Re:On “A Canticle for Leibowitz” by bslorence on Thursday July 28, 2022 @06:19PM (#32270755)
Yeah I think Miller was using the nuclear holocaust as a vehicle to reflect on original sin (i.e., the inevitable tendency of human beings to engage in self-destructive behavior) and the antidote to it offered by the Catholic Church. If he had written the novel today it probably would have been something other than MAD that nearly wiped out civilization twice.
Re:On “A Canticle for Leibowitz” by tablespoon on Friday July 29, 2022 @12:19PM (#32278842)
> If he had written the novel today it probably would have been something other than MAD that nearly wiped out civilization twice.

Maybe last year, but we're back to nuclear sabre-rattling and great-power conflict now.

Re:On “A Canticle for Leibowitz” by westward on Thursday July 28, 2022 @06:15PM (#32270715)
It's a poorly constructed sentence (and unfortunately the last, intended to inspire hope).
Re:On “A Canticle for Leibowitz” by _jal on Thursday July 28, 2022 @06:03PM (#32270618)
The book itself is the prediction.
Re:On “A Canticle for Leibowitz” by tablespoon on Thursday July 28, 2022 @06:12PM (#32270690)
> The book itself is the prediction.

The book itself is literature. To see it as a prediction and especially as a failed prediction seems simpleminded (in the techie-futurist way).

Re:On “A Canticle for Leibowitz” by _jal on Thursday July 28, 2022 @07:03PM (#32271103)
(A) I don't see it as a failed prediction, that's the author's view. Me, I think history is a long time compared to the time we've lived with WMD.

(B) The type of literature in question is called an allegory. To see an allegory as a prediction is... aligned with why people write them. I wouldn't call picking the wrong definition to support an argument simpleminded; perhaps friction-seeking would be a good term.