Re:US Gross Domestic Product, Second Quarter 2022 (Advance E...
by causi on Thursday July 28, 2022 @10:32AM
(#32264841)
$11.5 billion in profits on $103.06 billion in revenue is a profit margin of less than nine percent. That doesn't seem all that unreasonable to me.
[ Parent
| on HN ]
Re:US Gross Domestic Product, Second Quarter 2022 (Advance E...
by jsight on Thursday July 28, 2022 @11:05AM
(#32265339)
9% is exceptionally high for some industries (eg, commodities or retail). For example, Wal-Mart is closer to 3%. Its not unusual to see targets of close to 4%.
I do agree with you that it isn't unexpected during a period of sanctions on a country that produces ~10% of the worldwide oil supply, though. Profits naturally will rise for the remaining players.
Re:US Gross Domestic Product, Second Quarter 2022 (Advance E...
by rabuse on Thursday July 28, 2022 @12:34PM
(#32266663)
Now do Apple/Google/Facebook.
Re:US Gross Domestic Product, Second Quarter 2022 (Advance E...
by jsight on Tuesday August 02, 2022 @08:33PM
(#32326207)
Those aren't in commodities markets.
Re:US Gross Domestic Product, Second Quarter 2022 (Advance E...
by jeffbee on Thursday July 28, 2022 @10:41AM
(#32264971)
Oil is the textbook commodity and the expected profit margin on commodities is ~zero. That's the nature of a commodity: a good so interchangeable, with so many competing producers, that the profit margins are inevitably minimized.
Re:US Gross Domestic Product, Second Quarter 2022 (Advance E...
by kgwgk on Thursday July 28, 2022 @11:37AM
(#32265788)
By ~zero do you mean "covering just the cost of capital over a full cycle"? This is a textbook example of a capital intensive and cyclical industry.
Re:US Gross Domestic Product, Second Quarter 2022 (Advance E...
by jsight on Thursday July 28, 2022 @11:05AM
(#32265346)
The problem is that supply naturally reacts slowly and ~1/10th of the supply was removed from the global market. I've heard people act as if that's a small shift, but its really not small at all over the short term.
Re:US Gross Domestic Product, Second Quarter 2022 (Advance E...
by missedthecue on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:05PM
(#32268794)
Not all commodities are equally recoverable at similar costs though, and in a world where we need more oil/copper/iron than can come out of the cheapest mine, there will be profit