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Re:The Poor ROI of Autonomy (2020) by geek_at on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:27AM (#32261431)
Complex non digital signals. My neighbor is a train conductor and he had an accident because he missed a signal. He almost died and had to be cut out of the cabin. Some passengers were also hurt. Imagine the outcry when a ai train would do that.

Other than that isn't there in London a autonomous train? I remember riding that in 2005 or so

Re:The Poor ROI of Autonomy (2020) by Closi on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:30AM (#32261444)
The DLR is semi-autonomous. It has the ability to act autonomously, but it must be started with a button and has an attendant on-board that also fulfills other duties and can be there in the case of an incident.
Re:The Poor ROI of Autonomy (2020) by rpadovani on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:37AM (#32261474)
Indeed, it has a grade of automation of 3 (out of 4), so it is driverless, but not unattended (as that is level 4)
Re:The Poor ROI of Autonomy (2020) by iggldiggl on Thursday July 28, 2022 @09:49AM (#32264247)
According to this article (https://railinsider.co.uk/2020/10/27/making-london-undergrou...), it occasionally has to even fall back to effectively level 2 operation (i.e. operator at the front of the train) because increased passenger usage makes level 3 operation as originally built (no platform edge doors or obstacle detection systems) unsafe at certain stations during peak times.
Re:The Poor ROI of Autonomy (2020) by bluGill on Thursday July 28, 2022 @10:25AM (#32264742)
Automated trains wouldn't do that because we can design signals so that they cannot be missed (that is if you don't have positive go/no-go you stop in time)

Automated trains do have difficulties, but they are very different from the ones you see with human drivers.

Re:The Poor ROI of Autonomy (2020) by bencollier49 on Thursday July 28, 2022 @03:33AM (#32261454)
The DLR (Docklands Light Railway) is autonomous, but it's a pretty slow light rail system.

I think that automation is possible because it was built de novo and doesn't interface with the rest of the rail network.