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Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by fenek on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:27PM (#32254472)
I don't get it. The price of gas I'm paying in the US, has dropped by 20% in the last month or so. That seems to indicate that prices are going back to normal. What prices is fed concerned about?
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by aresant on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:32PM (#32254544)
Gas isn't a great indicator as it's currently being subsidized with the US + allies from their strategic reserves to the tune of ~240,000,000 barrels

https://home.treasury.gov/news/press-releases/jy0887

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by erellsworth on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:30PM (#32254522)
The price of labor. Their goal is to suppress wages. Gotta put workers back in their place or the whole system collapses.
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by adrr on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:39PM (#32254658)
There is a labor shortage not caused by covid but due to significant portion of the population retiring. We're missing 2 million workers from 2019. Biggest issue is that raising rates actually exacerbates the issue due to increased expense in investing in automation. From a society standpoint and an economic standpoint, people shouldn't be manually picking and packing things in a warehouse when we have automation that can drastically improve this. Businesses are to blame because labor was so cheap that they never invested in automation.
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by JumpCrisscross on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:33PM (#32254571)
Broadly speaking, if complaints oscillate between the central bank punishing savers one year and workers the other, that bank is doing something right.
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by just_steve_h on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:32PM (#32254551)
Which is also why there's bipartisan consensus on giving lots more money to police and the military. After all, someone has to control the violent rabble as they are priced out of decent living!
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by vorpalhex on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:38PM (#32254654)
The wealthy can afford private security. Crime mostly hurts less fortunate people and has had a significant jump: https://abcnews.go.com/US/12-major-us-cities-top-annual-homi...

In terms of military spending, you may have heard of an illegal invasion and war happening in Eastern Europe...

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by jason-phillips on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:37PM (#32254628)
I see what you're saying, but taking that logically a few steps further, I see this round of inflation is simply a rebalancing of prices relative to finite supply at the hands of a more empowered worker class. But I think you're right too.
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by tdhz77 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:36PM (#32254613)
Yes, Space X.
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by vorpalhex on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:35PM (#32254606)
Inflation hurts labor, not the wealthy. Bill Gates doesn't care if his groceries are 10% more expensive.

Inflation is outpacing wage increases so effective wages are actually lower in terms of buying power.

Housing is getting more expensive at a faster rate than wages are increasing.

If you are pro-labor you want the fed to aggressively raise rates because that makes life harder for business.

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by colinsane on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:50PM (#32254864)
> If you are pro-labor you want the fed to aggressively raise rates because that makes life harder for business.

the fed presents its goals as balancing low unemployment against low inflation. any projections for unemployment have it increasing as the fed tightens. i haven’t seen anyone say who these newly unemployed are, nor where they end up. but if the tradeoff were “low unemployment, but those at the bottom of the wrung have to move to cheaper housing (and commute further, etc)” vs “higher unemployment: those at the bottom of the wrung are SOL and end up on the streets”… well, i certainly hope that’s not the tradeoff we’re actively choosing here.

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by erellsworth on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @03:38PM (#32255690)
Yes, inflation hurts workers. You know what also hurts workers? Low wages.

The fed has specifically stated that reducing wages is one of their goals.

I'm not against the fed raising rates. But any benefit workers see from such a policy is unintentional.

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by vorpalhex on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @04:34PM (#32256514)
> The fed has specifically stated that reducing wages is one of their goals.

Citation? I would be surprised for the fed to have such a thing as their goal.

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by erellsworth on Thursday July 28, 2022 @01:29PM (#32267581)
"Wages are running high, the highest they’ve run in quite some time. And they are one good example of—or good illustration, really—of how tight the labor market really is, the fact that wages are running at the highest level in many decades. And that’s because of an imbalance between supply and demand and the labor market.

So we think, through our policies, through further healing in the labor market, higher rates, for example, of vacancy filling and things like that, and more people coming back in, we like to think that supply and demand will come back into balance and that, therefore, wage inflation will moderate to still high levels of wage increases, but ones that are more consistent with 2 percent inflation. That’s our expectation."

"So in principle, it seems as though, by moderating demand, we could see vacancies come down, and as a result—and they could come down fairly significantly and I think put supply and demand at least closer together than they are, and that that would give us a chance to have lower—to get inflation—to get wages down and then get inflation down without having to slow the economy and have a recession and have unemployment rise materially."

Implicit in all this is the idea that wages are currently too high, and need to be suppressed.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/transcript-fed-chief-powells-po...

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by post_break on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:40PM (#32254682)
The price for a package of oreos is about $5 now. Diesel is still way up over a year ago. Prices for food will not go back down, this is the new normal at the grocery store.
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by throwaway0a5e on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:37PM (#32254625)
Gas is highly volatile on a good day and we're coming off of an exceptionally high spike. 20% off of a high that's ~2x what it was a year ago and ~3x what it was a year before that. Gas prices will likely continue on a generally downward arc. The shape/timeline of the arc nobody knows and how low it will go nobody knows. I doubt it will hit the 2s nationally.

Energy in the general sense underpins the entire economy but there is so much more on top of that making inflation more complex.

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by tcmart14 on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:47PM (#32254802)
I am not an economic expert, so you may take with a grain of salt. Gases, prices, a complex topic. From my understanding there are/were two things causing increases in price. First is just inflation across the board that affects all items. The second is the oil specific problem of, there is plenty of crude oil, but not enough was being refined, leading to a lack of supply for actual gasoline. Some measures have been taken to curb the later problem of not enough refining. The prices dropping could be a product of that. To my knowledge the cause of that was exposing some of the crude supply to the wider world so places that had the capacity to refine more could take it and refine it. The US and several other nations were already running at capacity. Building more capacity is a long term solution, but needs year to build new refineries. The short term solution is to let whoever had slack capacity to take it, refine it, and put back out into the global market.

So the price decrease we see is probably more from the later, but there is still impact from the former. As a reminder, this goes more specifically for gas prices and not necessarily all prices on all items in general.

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by JamesBarney on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:55PM (#32254952)
There is also the supply side constraints of businesses reducing their capacity or not investing in new capacity during covid.
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by vorpalhex on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:33PM (#32254558)
Inflation (food, transport) is still about 10%.

> The CPI figures in the latest report were grim. Food prices rose 1.0% in June and are 10.4% above year-ago levels. Food at home costs 12.2% more than a year ago. Energy prices overall rose 7.5% in June and stand 41.6% above where they were in June of 2021. Gasoline prices rose 11.2% in June and are a whopping 60% higher than a year ago. The so-called “core” inflation measure of goods and services other than food and energy rose 0.7% in June and are 5.9% above year-ago levels.

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by boringg on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:31PM (#32254537)
Gas isn't the only thing that is responsible for inflation it's only part of the equation.
Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by game-of-throws on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:31PM (#32254540)
1. Gas prices are regional

2. The economy is more than just gas

Re:Federal Reserve to increase interest rates by 75 basis po... by WebbWeaver on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:40PM (#32254693)
Probably cost of living versus income. Though gas has dropped some may consider it demand destruction.