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Re:Shopify to lay off 10% of workers in broad shake-up by stephc_int13 on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @10:18AM (#32238590)
Alright.

Let's say that each product dev team is about 80 engineers. Let's double that number for support, HR, admin, etc. Let's add a team of 10 people for sales ( not needed for internal products but hey)

Now let's round it up to 200 heads.

That would make 50 large software products, is that right?

Re:Shopify to lay off 10% of workers in broad shake-up by ggreenbe on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @11:09AM (#32239421)
It's more than 50... I mean just look at the number of API endpoints across multiple APIs both internal and external. It's easily hundreds then add sys ops, dev ops, dev content writing (docs/guides), frontend, design, pm, support, etc.

I feel like most of you all are unaware of the complexity and scope of Shopify...

Re:Shopify to lay off 10% of workers in broad shake-up by jokethrowaway on Thursday July 28, 2022 @05:21AM (#32262114)
I've seen companies where a team was managing 10 services and companies where a team was managing one endpoint

The former had some stressed principal engineers, the latter was terribly inefficient and people had 1% productivity.

There is a happy medium, but nobody can manage a large headcounts without splitting in a lot of tiny products.

The core product of shopify is not something that needs 10k engineers for maintenance, even if they can afford that.

Re:Shopify to lay off 10% of workers in broad shake-up by woofcat on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @11:08AM (#32239391)
On a large chunk of Enterprise Software you'd have teams of people working on specific features / subsets of a larger product.

I.e. a team that is working on only Facebook Messenger back-end, a team working on Facebook Messenger Front-end, a team working on Friend Recommendation, etc.

Each of these teams is let's say 10 Dev, 2-4 QA, 1 Product Documentation, then all the normal overhead of HR, etc.