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Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by dieselgate on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @05:17AM (#32236023)
Wow cool article, didn’t know “fastener engineering” was a defined field. Was looking up snap buttons for canvas applications earlier (for boats etc) and there were more types than I was aware of. Buttons and rivets are rather cumbersome/manual to set but certainly have their advantages.
Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by walterbell on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @05:36AM (#32236142)
A deeper dive on the same topic, https://info.baysupply.com/essential-guide-to-threaded-rivet...

> rivets are rather cumbersome/manual to set

Astro ADN14 drill-adapter tool has polarized reviews, perhaps it works better with experience, https://www.amazon.com/Astro-Pneumatic-Tool-ADN14-Adapter/dp...

Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by Kon-Peki on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @10:49PM (#32246403)
Also the oldie-but-goodie, NASA Fastener Design Manual [1]. Rivnuts are on page 32, but not a lot of space is spent on them - they aren't strong enough for your rockets and satellites, although the military is willing to consider other types of blind rivets (page 94). Rivnuts look great to me, though!

[1] https://ntrs.nasa.gov/api/citations/19900009424/downloads/19...

Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by dieselgate on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @11:40AM (#32251821)
Dang thanks for the link! First thing to catch my eye is “what is waspalloy stainless!?”
Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by walterbell on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @11:10PM (#32246504)
Thanks for this historical gem!
Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by jjeaff on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @08:40PM (#32245741)
Glue is another area that I'm sure has more than one specialty involved.

There are so many types of glue and factors like heat, flexibility, hardness, heat sensitive application, uv light drying, color, texture, time to dry, catalyst drying, and a million different types of materials that might need to be glued to another different type of material.

Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by cuSetanta on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @05:05AM (#32248348)
Gluing in space applications is one of the very few areas I would consider myself close to an expert in (assuming I am not at the Peak of Mt. Stupid).

As you say, the number of factors involved is really crazy, especially when it comes to proving the suitability for a new glue. Thankfully there are a relatively small number of generally applicable glues that are used for 90% of situations.

For thos interested, the most commonly used glue in space in Europe is Scotchweld EC2216.

Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by eru on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @06:05AM (#32248628)
> Gluing in space applications is one of the very few areas I would consider myself close to an expert in (assuming I am not at the Peak of Mt. Stupid).

If you regularly practice the subject in the real world, ie glue stuff to other stuff, you should quickly notice whether your expertise is real?

Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by cuSetanta on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @08:04AM (#32249447)
Thats the hope alright. So far so good on that front. Haven't had anything fall off that wasn't meant to just yet!

but there is a whole world out there of glues that I havent got to work with yet, so expert still seems a bit rich to lay claim to.

Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by eru on Thursday July 28, 2022 @12:57AM (#32260632)
Imposter syndrome is real. But I think at some point we have to drop our false modesty and admit that we are the authorities on some things, even if our knowledge is still painfully limited.
Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by amalcon on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @08:50PM (#32245791)
Obligatory reference to http://thistothat.com/. It doesn't cover every factor, but if you just want to quickly find an adhesive that will do a good job holding one thing to another, it's great. It also gives decent toxicity warnings.
Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by koolba on Tuesday July 26, 2022 @09:40PM (#32246088)
That site is awesome.

> Ceramic to Leather

> We won't ask why you would want to glue ceramic and leather together - we just give gluing info.

> If the leather is thick (eg. boot leather), we recommend:

> Household Goop

Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by jjeaff on Friday August 05, 2022 @03:54PM (#32361172)
That is a cool site. But it is really lacking in regards to plastic (and they do seem to acknowledge that). I would love to see an expansion of the site to include various different types of plastic.
Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by gregschlom on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @02:29AM (#32247463)
I use a simple formula: epoxy if I need strength, CA glue with activator for everything else.

(oh and wood glue for woodworking projects)

Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by dzonga on Wednesday July 27, 2022 @08:43AM (#32249751)
yeah, when I started utility woodworking i.e making a bed my old boss who dabbles in woodworking as a hobby told me forget nails. wood glue has more strength.
Re:When are rivet nuts an ideal choice for an application? (... by dieselgate on Thursday July 28, 2022 @04:57PM (#32270010)
Yes seriously, it’s usually the wood that will split/break before the glue