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Re:Why Academic Freedom Matters (2021) by jrm4 on Monday July 25, 2022 @03:04PM (#32229370)
I'm not trying to complain on behalf of myself; I'm trying to paint you all a picture of "what it was like." Social and cultural spaces were different back then.

What you're doing is trying to isolate and relate what I was going through, but through your own lens and you can't much do it that way.

For example, I was fortunate to go to an Ivy League school and as a black person that felt like a huge privilege, one that I damn sure was going to stay within a certain set of behaviors to keep. You can't measure "academic freedom" without that kind of context.

Again, maybe I/we misread and perhaps had more room to speak than we thought. Probably did. But again, just painting the picture for you.

Re:Why Academic Freedom Matters (2021) by ponow on Monday July 25, 2022 @03:11PM (#32229466)
There is no way you'd had faced formal repercussions for just discussing it in the late 90s. While I can't prove this, I would be stunned if you got much more than a few eye rolls and the like, essentially all in private. It is conceivable that some faculty member may decline writing a letter of recommendation, which could be significant. I am speaking about good Canadian schools and American ivies.

The suppression today involves professionally disasterous public things like firings, censures, formal censorship, pressure to sign petitions, reputational destruction, doxing, physically threatening pressure and screaming and possibly violence, etc. If only it were eye rolls.

Re:Why Academic Freedom Matters (2021) by jrm4 on Monday July 25, 2022 @03:17PM (#32229558)
You are correct that it wouldn't be formal. You are WAY OFF in thinking that informal isn't just as, if not more important.

Specifically, you're missing how then, e.g. white conservative majority power didn't need formality to suppress. That's how majority power works. It can just good-ol-boy network its way to suppression. (And note how it doesn't need to be precise when it's like that. It doesn't have to "make an argument," it can, e.g. just deny tenure to the loud black lady on some random grounds.)

Formality is usually what the WEAKER side must resort to. Now I think there's a reasonable argument that that process is much stronger in a negative way today -- but context.