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Re:A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its huma... by amelius on Sunday July 24, 2022 @08:12AM (#32212678)
Exploiting the sloppiness of the government and using it against the user is not what I would call good behavior.
Re:A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its huma... by EUROCARE on Sunday July 24, 2022 @08:48AM (#32212941)
Still, the situation at hand is primarily fault of the government - which should've taken care of it at the very least 5 years ago, or sooner. It isn't a problem exclusive to Tesla, Mercedes has a very similar feature called Drive Pilot (introduced in 2013 IIRC) and except for the most recent model year a malfunction is a problem of the user just like with Teslas.

BTW this isn't even about any lawyers and EULAs, there's simply no legal way how a company like Tesla or Mercedes could take responsibility for a crash, so IMHO Tesla is at least nice enough to spell it out, unlike Mercedes.

Re:A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its huma... by amelius on Sunday July 24, 2022 @11:54AM (#32214649)
> there's simply no legal way how a company like Tesla or Mercedes could take responsibility for a crash

This seems unlikely to be true, unless of course they weaseled themselves in this position.

Re:A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its huma... by EUROCARE on Sunday July 24, 2022 @12:36PM (#32215063)
Read through the laws about deciding blame in car crashes. There isn't a single word about transferring blame to the manufacturer, and thus it's not possible - and the law specifically says that the driver has responsibility. Nobody had to specifically weasel themselves into it, just the states kept sleeping a decade too long.
Re:A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its huma... by amelius on Sunday July 24, 2022 @01:15PM (#32215525)
I'm not going to read through law texts, but I'm sure that there are provisions for the case where the manufacturer made a design error and is responsible for a crash.
Re:A chess robot in Moscow has broken the finger of its huma... by EUROCARE on Sunday July 24, 2022 @01:42PM (#32215789)
This isn't the case though, the car works as advertised and licensed, the problem here is that the law makes the driver responsible for something they shouldn't be.