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Re:Framework Laptop (2022) review: the repairability dream by yjftsjthsd-h on Thursday July 21, 2022 @11:06PM (#32188003)
> I guess there’s some reason it’ll never actually work a linux laptop.

Except it clearly can; every thinkpad I've owned handled S3 flawlessly in Linux, and Chromebooks manage fine.

Re:Framework Laptop (2022) review: the repairability dream by POPOSYS on Friday July 22, 2022 @02:18AM (#32189108)
I have a Thinkpad X1 3rd Gen that does not handle that flawlessly.

I do not want to discuss that, I just want to show the value of anecdotal evidence postings: zero.

Re:Framework Laptop (2022) review: the repairability dream by fsflover on Friday July 22, 2022 @03:40AM (#32189544)
Anecdotal evidence does refute the point that "it’ll never actually work a linux laptop".
Re:Framework Laptop (2022) review: the repairability dream by POPOSYS on Friday July 22, 2022 @04:04AM (#32189699)
OK, I re-read the thread and in this case you are right - if it works flawless at least on one specific laptop, it can not "never work at all". Sorry for the disturbance.
Re:Framework Laptop (2022) review: the repairability dream by fossuser on Friday July 22, 2022 @04:44PM (#32196898)
Nah you’re fine - I try to avoid saying things like “never actually work” because there’s always someone on HN who will point to one working example as if that absolves my point, but sometimes I forget.

I’ve had thinkpads that don’t work either. The issue is suspend still doesn’t work reliably going on twenty years - even in the case where the laptop is explicitly a Linux laptop made for this purpose.

It means my default assumption has to remain that it probably won’t work (or at least I shouldn't expect that it will). I’m tempted by the framework because I like what they’re trying to do, but if suspend is still an issue it’s imo not worth it (even ignoring the bad battery tradeoff). That’s even ignoring the continued distance apple keeps putting between themselves and everyone else with their custom hardware.

Also the modular ports are essentially built in usb-c dongles. It’s not obvious to me why this is better than just having adapters. It takes up internal space and may be partly why the battery life is bad. Instead of adapters you have modules - is this a win?

Re:Framework Laptop (2022) review: the repairability dream by fsflover on Saturday July 23, 2022 @05:41AM (#32201813)
Try a laptop designed for Linux. Suspend is working 100% of the time on my Librem 15.