Analyzing iOS 16 Lockdown Mode: Browser Features and Performance

Re:Analyzing iOS 16 Lockdown Mode: Browser Features and Perf... by nneonneo on Thursday July 21, 2022 @09:42AM (#32179282)

I think one reason to make this feature public is to get more people to use it, and therefore dilute Lockdown Mode as a signal. As you say, it’s pretty easy for an attacker to detect this mode: with a browser, just check that the Safari version is high enough but that certain features are not available. If even 1% of iPhone users are using Lockdown mode, it’ll far exceed the number of people who really need the feature to stay ahead of nation-state targeting.

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Re:Analyzing iOS 16 Lockdown Mode: Browser Features and Perf... by Syonyk on Thursday July 21, 2022 @09:55AM (#32179429)

This would be another good reason for "lots of random people to use it," certainly - same as Tor.

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Re:Analyzing iOS 16 Lockdown Mode: Browser Features and Perf... by O__________O on Thursday July 21, 2022 @10:51AM (#32180084)

Using Tor is legal justification for a warrant to remotely hack systems using it:

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-does-rule-41-sa...

As such, highly likely most systems running Tor nodes have been hacked and that Tor is not secure.

Very possible lockdown mode might be as well a legal justification for a warrant, given it “conceals” systems.

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Re:Analyzing iOS 16 Lockdown Mode: Browser Features and Perf... by O__________O on Thursday July 21, 2022 @11:37AM (#32180662)

If that was the case, Apple would have just offered end-to-end-encryption for iCloud, which they did not; turning off iCloud is also not a default configuration of the new lockdown mode, which it should be.

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Re:Analyzing iOS 16 Lockdown Mode: Browser Features and Perf... by threeseed on Thursday July 21, 2022 @11:19AM (#32180435)

I think you should spend less time on conspiracy sites.

The world including Apple's product map doesn't revolve around Hunter Biden.

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Re:Analyzing iOS 16 Lockdown Mode: Browser Features and Perf... by Sporktacular on Thursday July 21, 2022 @11:47AM (#32180782)

It just makes sense to lock down iMessage, for example, as a vector.

They're doing this for credibility? Yeah, in part, that's how companies work. But if it produces an improvement then what's the problem? Capitalism?

Also, what's with the aggression? Tone it down.

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Re:Analyzing iOS 16 Lockdown Mode: Browser Features and Perf... by O__________O on Thursday July 21, 2022 @10:12AM (#32179632)

Issues is automatically targeting users would be easy.

If Apple tracks users that have both lockdown mode and iCloud on, all a nation state with jurisdiction has to do is request list of users with both on; having lockdown mode on might even qualify as justification for a search warrant and legally hack anyone using it, which is already the case for Tor:

https://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/what-does-rule-41-sa...

Find it horrifying that Apple has this feature, but makes no effort to inform users about the risks of iCloud; in my opinion, if you have lockdown mode on, iCloud should not be option, should trigger an off boarding from iCloud and wiping of any data on iCloud; also pointed this out in comments here:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32006436

To me, as is, lockdown mode sounds like a honeypot:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honeypot_(computing)

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