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Re:The world is awful, the world is much better, the world c... by trasz on Thursday July 21, 2022 @06:53AM (#32177829)
FWIW, China has a very long history of famines. Twentieth century wasn't an outlier - although in the West it's been heavily publicised for propaganda reasons.
Re:The world is awful, the world is much better, the world c... by wolfram74 on Thursday July 21, 2022 @08:42AM (#32178617)
My impression from[0] is most places have long histories of fammines, without practical contraceptives, we're all moties and one or two bad harvesta from a Having a Bad Time.

[0]https://acoup.blog/2020/07/24/collections-bread-how-did-they...

Re:The world is awful, the world is much better, the world c... by robertlagrant on Thursday July 21, 2022 @07:59AM (#32178303)
It was the worst famine - and, arguably, period - in the history of the world:

- tens of millions died due to starvation from central planning issues (variously causing: a plague of locusts; Mao wanting to save face so refused foreign aid and maintained being a net exporter of food while people were starving; diverting people away from agriculture to metal production to meet the five year plan)

- millions died from government beatings/torturings to death, and suicide due to hopelessness and government destruction of cultural traditions in the name of centrally planned progress

Now one might say that there may have been even more harmful centrally planned economies, i.e. the USSR and Nazi Germany, but at best any of the candidates is competing to be only the third worst disaster in the history of the world.

Re:The world is awful, the world is much better, the world c... by trasz on Thursday July 21, 2022 @08:01PM (#32186832)
It was the worst, but some of the ones before it weren't far behind - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_famines_in_China.

Also I find it curious that among the possible causes you forgot to mention World War 2. What would you say if someone omitted that when explaining fifties in Europe?

Re:The world is awful, the world is much better, the world c... by robertlagrant on Friday July 22, 2022 @09:13AM (#32191537)
I would think that's normal, because WW2 was 1939-1945, and even though it was waged there it didn't include events that would be considered a direct cause of millions starving in Europe. Which is why they didn't.

If you think WW2 was a major contributor to the Great Leap Forward deaths then just explain, rather than making oblique comments about how it's strange I didn't mention the thing that you're thinking of (but not mentioning).