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Re:Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon by threatofrain on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:03PM (#32172277)
The Constitution is strong because of the robustness of the structure it specifies via checks and balances, not because people pledge an oath. I also don't think it's obvious that the US would go to war to preserve the union.
Re:Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon by chasd00 on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:16PM (#32172447)
What i meant by "oath to the constitution" is the US military doesn't pledge allegiance to an administration or ideology or region. Its only purpose is to uphold the constitution of the United States of America. That's why the military operates the same no matter which political party is in power. At the end of the day, its only purpose is to defend the constitution.

If the US didn't goto war to preserve the union then the US, as defined the US constitution, ceases to exist. There is no provision in the constitution laying out the right (or even the method) for secession.

Re:Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon by stale2002 on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @11:45PM (#32175533)
> There is no provision in the constitution laying out

Sure there is. It is called the amendment process, and requires a supermajority vote.

Unless, you are going to claim that using the amendment process, officially, as laid out in the constitution is some treasonous act, that the military would stop.

(Funnily enough, I have see people make this silly argument! That it is unconstitutional to use the official constitutional amendment process, and is treason!)

Re:Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon by notch656a on Thursday July 21, 2022 @01:25AM (#32176049)
I mean the tenth amendment would imply the decision to secede is up to the states. There's no prohibition on secession in the constitution and I think it was evidence to the states when they formed a union that their union was voluntary, not coerced. IMO the decision to block secession was a treasonous and seditious act by Lincoln, and he has a lot of blood on his hands.
Re:Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon by tmaly on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:58PM (#32172985)
Google US Civil War