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Re:Log4j: The pain just keeps going by throwaway23234 on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @12:05PM (#32167751)
What counts as a garbage language? Java guys will tell you it's rust or go, go guys will tell you it's java or rust, rust guys will tell you it's java and go.
Re:Log4j: The pain just keeps going by recursive on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @12:25PM (#32168100)
> What counts as a garbage language?

I assume it's one with GC.

Re:Log4j: The pain just keeps going by joebob42 on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:30PM (#32172614)
Wouldn't it be one without gc? Gc collects the garbage and disposes of it, whereas in other languages it just piles up :D
Re:Log4j: The pain just keeps going by EdwardDiego on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @06:48PM (#32173425)
Java person here. Yeah, Go looks a bit crufty, but they're gradually undoing the earlier opinionated choices that make me think that (Who needs generics? Who needs to tune the GC? Oh, our users do), but nah, we mainly hate on Scala when we have to maintain anything with Scala deps, just that damn ABI that's never compatible.
Re:Log4j: The pain just keeps going by wyager on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @12:31PM (#32168205)
I'm not any of those guys, and of those 3 rust is by far the least garbage. Garbagicity is a spectrum.
Re:Log4j: The pain just keeps going by shikoba on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @03:14PM (#32170765)
I was sure reading your first post that you will propose rust. Rust users never cease to amaze me.
Re:Log4j: The pain just keeps going by wyager on Thursday July 21, 2022 @08:14PM (#32186932)
I'm not a "rust user" any more than I'm a java user (less, in fact). Your heuristic is probably picking up on the fact that people who pay attention to things like this tend to have correlated opinions.
Re:Log4j: The pain just keeps going by sebzim4500 on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @03:46PM (#32171165)
To be fair there was also a significant chance he would think Rust was garbage and only assembly (or if you are lucky, C) are acceptable languages.
Re:Log4j: The pain just keeps going by shikoba on Thursday July 21, 2022 @06:32AM (#32177685)
You still don't know how to spot them :). The borrow checker is a great invention, but for them it's the holy grail that will save us from bugs. Like in the past people thought that GC was the solution to every problems. Youngsters must learn, we have to be patient.