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Re:A brief history of nobody wants to work anymore by refurb on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @03:38AM (#32162686)
Take a look at the maximum pension payment (which you'd get as a programmer in the US making more than > $147,000 per year) between France and the US.

France: €1,714 ($1,714 USD) per month in 2022 [1]

US: $3,345 per month for someone who files at full retirement age [2]

[1] https://www.cleiss.fr/docs/regimes/regime_france/an_3.html

[2] https://www.aarp.org/retirement/social-security/questions-an...

Re:A brief history of nobody wants to work anymore by Xixi on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @04:59AM (#32163146)
Not a specialist at all: I relocated to Japan, and have only worked about one year in France... But you are missing a (big) piece of the French pension scheme: the Agirc-Arrco system, which is mandatory and complement the base system your link is referring to.

Someone at 60k€ should expect a total retirement of roughly 3,200€/month (back of the envelope calculation). Someone making 150k€ would expect a retirement of about 7,000€/month (again, back of the envelope calculation). Making 300k€, you would expect close to 14k€/month (again, back of the envelope calculation). I think that's pretty much the maximum you can get, it doesn't scale much further than that.

Re:A brief history of nobody wants to work anymore by BlargMcLarg on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @07:02AM (#32163982)
Off-topic: any reasons related to the current topic that you relocated to Japan?
Re:A brief history of nobody wants to work anymore by Xixi on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @08:32AM (#32164805)
Absolutely none whatsoever.

Financial concerns didn’t weight at all on my mind when deciding to move here, so I can’t tell you if it’s better or worse.

I strongly doubt it’s better, especially for retirement, but I could be wrong.

So I’m not even sure why I’m arguing about cross border salaries or retirement benefits…

Re:A brief history of nobody wants to work anymore by refurb on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @07:07AM (#32164018)
The Agirc-Arrco is a separate, compulsory system that has separate contributions to the state pension.
Re:A brief history of nobody wants to work anymore by crooked-v on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @03:43AM (#32162720)
Of course, who knows how long Social Security is actually going to last, given the repeated Republican tactic of squeezing money from its line items to give to tax cuts instead.
Re:A brief history of nobody wants to work anymore by badpun on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:03AM (#32163172)
Macron is pushing for similar things in France.