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Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by pronlover723 on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @01:17AM (#32147799)
Surprisingly I was at a party in SF with a bunch of Apple employees. Somehow some topic came up and I was like "I don't do anything personal on my company laptop. I especially don't look at porn". All 6 of them said they used their company laptops and phones to look at porn all the time.

Wow

Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by heavyset_go on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @01:27AM (#32147855)
I've heard some pretty simultaneously funny and Orwellian stories about this, mostly about people being fired for looking at porn using work laptops and the specific porn they were looking at.

Don't use work computers to look at porn, your employers already know about it.

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Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by badpun on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @05:54AM (#32149459)
Lol I nominate the above to the title of most entitled and out of touch comment of the month. How is this "basic human need" if online porn didn't even exist before 1990?
Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by tpoacher on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @10:00AM (#32151548)
Neither did the internet. Or electricity before that.
Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by badpun on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @02:32PM (#32155977)
And none of those are basic human needs. They're just comforts we've grown accustomed to.
Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by tpoacher on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @04:11AM (#32162869)
You're using a different definition than i am then, and dare I say, an archaic one.

Basic human needs and rights only make sense in the context of the society in which said humans are a part of.

Homeless? Not a problem in nomadic tribes. Cities? Basic need / right.

Access to food services? Not a problem for the Buddhist monk. Cities? Basic need / right.

Electricity? Not a problem for the Amish. Cities? Basic need / right.

Internet? Perhaps not as established as the above, but definitely establishing itself very quickly in most cities.

Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by heavyset_go on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @05:27PM (#32158207)
Eh, you can't even apply for a job without internet access these days. I'd say internet access is essential for participation in society.
Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by dzhiurgis on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @11:53PM (#32161219)
So you say it’s fine if your office had no electricity and running water?
Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by badpun on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @05:05AM (#32163192)
If it's not required to do the job and they pay well, then why not. I can easily survive 8 hours without running water. Geologists (often with masters or even PhDs titles) working in the field have neither, and they like their jobs.

Moreover, seeing the right to be paid for jerking off while at work as fundamental human right is really unhinged.

Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by tomrod on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @07:52AM (#32150241)
Correct. Rape, theft, murder, and other actions can be performed along the way of people fulfilling their basic human needs, so the reasoning doesn't really justify all activities.

The way I look at it (and not saying it is the best way, just works for me) is that my public/professional person is my brand that the world sees and thinks of when I interact with them. Regardless whether that is big brother junior analyst in IT or a client CEO, I try to keep that consistent and inviting.

If on the weekend I want to only drink Soylent, trade crypto, and otherwise engage in fun but less inviting behaviors, I'll do that off company property.

Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by frostedflakes on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @04:31AM (#32148934)
I'm as sex positive as they come but even I think it'd be pretty dumb to have pornhub pop up while you're sharing your screen in a meeting or something
Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by dzhiurgis on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @08:17AM (#32150437)
About as dumb as having model train collector site up, or reddit or hn or whatever...

It was actually kinda a joke with my friend when used to help him code. Leave something nasty open just for amusement.

One good reason is that porn sites are notoriously riddles with browser 0 days. To this day I get the odd Safari crash every other month.

Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by analognoise on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @04:32AM (#32148939)
We've decided to structure society such that some people starve, and we consider that acceptable. There are even children who are "food insecure".

Apparently nobody cares about anyone else's most basic needs like food (even our most vulnerable), I can't see how they'd care about someone else's need to jerk off.

Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by 0xbadcafebee on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @08:38AM (#32150627)
It's very common. Most IT groups collect this information for HR and don't do anything with it. The truth is the company doesn't care if you look at porn as long as you do your job. Until the day comes that the company wants to fire you. If you claim retaliation/discrimination/etc, company just opens up your file and lists all the violations.
Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by LilBytes on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @05:10AM (#32149212)
My prior employer was the same, I wouldn't use it to make tooling or do anything that might be for my own business, or open source for that matter, they had been known to strong arm staff into giving over IP that might have ever been on that laptop or was ever created during your employment.

But they were quite frank about allowing us to do what ever we want on the laptops providing we delivered positive outcomes for the business.

If this meant the laptops were used to browse porn at home or even during business hours (clearly not on the shop floor if you were in the office) or playing video games, it was fair game.

This employer also had _incredibly_ poor standards and culture for removing misogyny and bigotry, in fact it was one of the worst I've ever seen. Not saying causation = correlation or similar but an interesting data point nonetheless.

Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by saagarjha on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @01:49AM (#32147973)
Apple generally encourages employees to use their devices as they usually would to “dogfood”.
Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by JonChesterfield on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @05:21AM (#32149285)
Some cynicism on the part of their engineers would be prudent despite that advice. Lots of places encourage you to use the company phone as your only phone, which is convenient, but still not a great idea.
Re:Glassdoor not so anonymous by cafard on Friday July 22, 2022 @10:21AM (#32192114)
Once when another person in IT was on vacation, I was handed off a manager's laptop to scan for porn. There was no automated tool, so as I recall I did a search for files created or modified since the last check. I found nothing to report.

I think that the periodic checks were set up because a subordinate of the manager's had seen the porn on the machine, and had gone to HR.