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Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by candiddevmike on Monday July 18, 2022 @07:00PM (#32145220)
And yet, even with all of this surveillance, we still have mass shootings every five days.
Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by PuppyTailWags on Monday July 18, 2022 @07:13PM (#32145343)
My understanding is that in the vast majority of these mass shooting cases, authorities are well aware of the danger but there's no enforcement mechanism for "probably going to do a mass shooting".
Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by Schroedingersat on Monday July 18, 2022 @09:15PM (#32146266)
Yeah there is.

It's called not paying to bombard them with great replacement conspiracy theories all for a decade and instead paying twice as many teachers as well as getting dedicated mental health staff.

Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by Tr3nton on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @12:12AM (#32147448)
>replacement conspiracy theories

https://europhobia.blog

Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by Schroedingersat on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @01:24AM (#32147840)
Yes. exactly like that one.
Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by ta988 on Monday July 18, 2022 @07:11PM (#32145323)
Judging by what is done (and what is not done) to remedy them, they sound more like a feature than a bug of our society unfortunately. People are able to storm political institutions when they are angry about an election, but just buy more weapons when their kids get killed. Go figure.
Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by shrubble on Monday July 18, 2022 @07:09PM (#32145294)
Only "nobodies" get shot. Funny how they never target any politicians, huh?
Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by seneca on Monday July 18, 2022 @07:40PM (#32145591)
> Funny how they never target any politicians, huh?

They do. Here are a couple recent examples:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/2011_Tucson_shooting https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Congressional_baseball_shoot...

Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by denkmoon on Monday July 18, 2022 @08:57PM (#32146123)
Resolving mass shootings isn't the purpose of the surveillance.
Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by jjav on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @02:21AM (#32148158)
According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mass_shootings_in_the_... there have been 337 mass shootings in the US so far in 2022, way more than one per day. One every five days would at this point be a big improvement.
Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by plugger on Monday July 18, 2022 @07:17PM (#32145373)
surveillance doesn't seem to do much to deter crimes, it just makes investigation easier
Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by specialist on Monday July 18, 2022 @09:30PM (#32146416)
I could almost support the panopticon if that actually happened.

Adjacently, to make the point: we warehouse 1000s or rape kits but don't bother to process them. Like, wtf?

Big Data completely flips the problem of investigation. Instead of identifying suspects, chasing leads, gathering evidence, and verifying alibis, with Big Data you just rule out everyone who does have an alibi. Leaving only those who don't have an alibi, thereby revealing the perpetrators.

It's been a while since I've actively cared about protecting privacy. So I don't know if any one's talking about how Big Data impacts legal concepts (balances of concerns) hammered out over the centuries. Like what is reasonable doubt and presumption of innocence when prosecutors can prove that every one else has an alibi?

When I tried to talk about this stuff with other privacy advocates, presumably savvy about policy and whatnot, they'd look at me like I'm paranoid schizophrenic. So if the experts are still coming up to speed, it'll take that much longer for the policy maker, much less the general public, to become aware.

Re:New documents reveal scale of US Government’s cell phone ... by landemva on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @12:18AM (#32147478)
Comprehensive surveillance makes blackmailing and controlling politicians easier.