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Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by darthrupert on Monday July 18, 2022 @02:44PM (#32141840)
Visual Code, I guess obviously. Has mostly overtaken both Emacs and Vim.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by ipaddr on Monday July 18, 2022 @03:43PM (#32142642)
That's like saying the phone has overtaken the horse.

I doubt many people sshing into a box using vim will choose visual code. There might have been some people using vim for daily development who switched but probably not many

Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by pthr on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @10:50AM (#32152335)
vscode actually is very convenient when working on remote machines. You'll run the vscode editor on your own box, but have it access the remote's filesystem over ssh. https://code.visualstudio.com/docs/remote/ssh

Probably overkill for occasional remote file editing (it'll run some server component on the remote machine), but pretty good for more involving remote development work.

Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by viraptor on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @02:09AM (#32148088)
Switched from vim to vscode with vimmode for the key bindings. Od definitely include it on the list for the extensibility and features.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by znpy on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @09:11AM (#32150950)
> I doubt many people sshing into a box using vim will choose visual code.

Actually I do just that.

With the remote development tools I can open a remote folder in vscode and edit from there. And when I start terminals, they're going to start a shell on the remote linux box.

Everything via ssh.

Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by darthrupert on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @05:34AM (#32149357)
It's like saying that the electric car engine has overtaken the oil-based car engine.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by nnoitra on Monday July 18, 2022 @03:53PM (#32142797)
Really? Did you miss the part where both of them are editors?
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by ipaddr on Monday July 18, 2022 @05:26PM (#32144022)
Are you opening visual code in your putty session to edit a config variable? They are as similiar as word and pico.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by nnoitra on Monday July 18, 2022 @05:28PM (#32144051)
No, but that's for basic text editing only. Anything more serious and you spending 2 hours per 6 hour development time configuring vim.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by Vijayvithal on Monday July 18, 2022 @11:45PM (#32147320)
You configure Vim Daily? For every Task? Wow!

I have once .vimrc configured for all the languages that I use/know. Whenever I work with a new client. I pull that .vimrc on the allocated machine. Run PluginInstall and in minutes I am ready to go!

Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by 5e92cb50239222b on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @09:26AM (#32151106)
I would claim the opposite — VSCode is nearly unusable without very heavy customization unless you're fine with being very inefficient. Hotkeys for many common operations are not assigned out of the box. Without that, using it involves driving the interface with both the mouse and the keyboard. Those that are assigned are awkward and look like they've been designed for a spider since they require you to reach keys on the opposite sides of the keyboard. I always get the feeling that its own authors don't use it for anything more complicated than editing /etc/hosts, although it's quite obviously not true.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by rlpb on Monday July 18, 2022 @02:49PM (#32141920)
Overtaken how? Download size? Startup time? Ubiquitous availability? Number of kernel hackers who use it as their daily driver? What's your metric?
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by worthless-trash on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @12:13AM (#32147451)
Memory usage and CPU time ! Heyooo!
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by jhbadger on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @10:30AM (#32152060)
I remember when Emacs was viewed as requiring a lot of resources (in the early 1990s) and I remember the sysadmin of our shared UNIX system scolding us if we had more than one emacs process running (as opposed to opening multiple files in different buffers).
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by groovy2shoes on Wednesday July 20, 2022 @02:29PM (#32170141)
The old joke was that EMACS stood for Eight Megs And Constantly Swapping. Of course, eight megs is nothing these days.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by wruza on Monday July 18, 2022 @03:07PM (#32142184)
Not a fan of vscode (or emacs, which it “has overtaken”, not vim), but I think it fits OP’s first paragraph.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by darthrupert on Monday July 18, 2022 @03:21PM (#32142335)
Popularity, features, quality. I still use Emacs myself but I'm not fucking blind.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by jshzglr on Monday July 18, 2022 @03:06PM (#32142163)
Relax and open your eyes.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by GrollingGrakbor on Monday July 18, 2022 @05:17PM (#32143867)
I've been using VSCode kinda on and off, but I haven't learned it properly yet. Do you think it's truly worth it? It seems to me like you'd use it mainly when you don't have access to a full IDE, so I haven't really found a niche yet.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by anonuser123456 on Monday July 18, 2022 @06:43PM (#32145032)
VSCode is magical in my experience. I say this as a 20 year emacs user, and 10 year Vim user.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by Vijayvithal on Monday July 18, 2022 @11:47PM (#32147331)
VSCode is good. But it is a memory hog compared to Vim. I need that memory for my compile/simulate tasks.
Re:Ask HN: Is there other software similar to Vim and Emacs? by worthless-trash on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @03:30AM (#32148546)
I wish someone could show me actual repl work in vscode for a lisp or erlang. It sometimes gets the way there, but doesn't to make it.

I think the plugin writers are either shoe-horned by VCCodes lack of plugin capability or they are basing their work off some other toolings expected behavior and it doesn't "sit right" with how I work.