The case for bad coffee (2015)

Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by baxuz on Monday July 18, 2022 @02:16AM (#32135293)

Austria has pretty bad coffee. 99.9% of shops sell Julius Meinl from pretty badly maintained espresso machines. And their coffee is usually burnt.

Italy has, in general, people who know how to make better coffee as they treat their machines and the procedure with more care. The coffee isn't all that better. Both Lavazza and Illy are robusta blends.

Turkish coffee has nothing to do with espresso coffee, or filter coffee for that matter. It's my least favourite one as the traditional method of preparation basically includes boiling extremely finely ground coffee in a small pot called cezve. It's over extracted, burnt and usually has to be tempered with a ton of sugar and/or sweets.

However, none of these coffees are nearly as bad as what the US folks, Poles, Germans or Finns drink. The coffee is basically old and overburnt. I guess it also goes hand in hand with preferring filter coffee.

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by __alexs on Monday July 18, 2022 @03:50AM (#32135718)

Illy advertise themselves as 100% Arabica and Lavazza have many products that claim 100% Arabica. Are you saying these are false advertising? Or is this one of those things where the cafe blend is totally different to the store blend?

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by martyvis on Monday July 18, 2022 @04:07AM (#32135789)

Lavazza do have Arabica and Robusta blends, they tend to be the more "Intenso" ones, but their default is 100% Arabica.

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by baxuz on Monday July 18, 2022 @04:52AM (#32136023)

My bad, I got some of my brands mixed up when writing the post. Illy is 100% Arabica, but Lavazza cafe blends are usually mixed with robusta.

In Croatia, Illy is basically the only coffee brand which serves 100% arabica in cafes.

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by cehrlich on Monday July 18, 2022 @03:05AM (#32135535)

Austrian here. Completely agree that Austrian coffee is mostly terrible (and expensive!). I still like going to the traditional coffee houses, but it's certainly not for the coffee.

And yes, the first time I had coffee in America (I think it was from Dunkin Donuts) I couldn't believe how much worse it was than anything I'd ever tasted in my life.

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by krolley on Tuesday July 19, 2022 @05:43AM (#32149404)

First time I went when I was in America, I ordered I think a medium with sugar. It was this gigantic 1 litre cup of very, very sweet "coffee". Had to throw it away, absolutely undrinkable. I'm very far from a coffee snob and that blew my mind.

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by murukesh_s on Monday July 18, 2022 @02:51AM (#32135465)

Which country has the best coffee as per your opinion then? Just wondering as in south asia we haven't started worrying so much about coffee yet - you either do traditional filter coffee[1] or buy instant coffee powder and be done with it. May be it's because coffee is almost always served with milk and sugar or we have other things to worry about.

[1]https://theculturetrip.com/asia/india/articles/a-brief-histo...

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by jon_adler on Monday July 18, 2022 @03:16AM (#32135583)

Melbourne (Australia) probably has the worlds best coffee. It certainly has the highest proportion of baristas sporting man buns.

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by LilBytes on Monday July 18, 2022 @03:58AM (#32135752)

Nah, you lost that mantle years ago.

Brisbane reigns king now,

Yours LilBytes the pretentious online only coffee snob /s

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by stephen_g on Monday July 18, 2022 @04:18AM (#32135838)

Brisbane does have amazing coffee. The 'Melbourne has the best coffee' thing is at least ten years out of date, it's mostly just 'Australia has the best coffee' now.

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by LilBytes on Monday July 18, 2022 @10:28AM (#32138795)

Agreed!

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by eru on Monday July 18, 2022 @02:57AM (#32135503)

Australia has great coffee.

Singapore has some really good coffee these days (but also plenty of not so great one). We just had lots of good coffee in Chiang Mai in Thailand, too.

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Re:The case for bad coffee (2015) by rubenbe on Monday July 18, 2022 @04:50AM (#32136011)

> Austria has pretty bad coffee.

I agree, I traveled once from Italy towards Austria. And the difference could not be bigger. Also aggravated by the fact I payed a ridiculous amount for it (IIRC 4 euro in Austria, 1 euro in Italy)

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