Learning The Elite Class

Re:Learning The Elite Class by avgcorrection on Saturday July 16, 2022 @10:59AM (#32118781)

One thing I’ve noticed about middlebrow online commenters is that they think that poor people are unaware that they are poor and that there exist people that are of median and rich means. That they themselves (the middlebrow online commenters) are somehow more aware of the plight of the poor—many of them from a distance since many of the commenters are middle class—than the poor people themselves.

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Re:Learning The Elite Class by bombcar on Saturday July 16, 2022 @12:05PM (#32119369)

The "white savior" is still alive, and the more the unwashed masses resist the obvious good the more it grows.

You see it publicly and more vociferously after an election.

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Re:Learning The Elite Class by ncmncm on Saturday July 16, 2022 @05:28PM (#32122136)

It is objective fact that the overwhelming majority of underclass people in the US consider themselves "middle class".

They are very successfully manipulated to vote for people who will deny benefit to people like themselves in the (sincere, induced) belief that it would mean taking from themselves to give to people even lower.

It is the bedrock principle of "conservative" politics, that successfully keeps the upper class from ever needing to pay their fare share. The underclass have been taught to carry them on their shoulders, and like it.

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Re:Learning The Elite Class by avgcorrection on Saturday July 16, 2022 @05:52PM (#32122312)

Socially liberal middle class Democrats on the other hand—the would-be saviors of the “underclass”[1]—are convinced that they are voting for the progressive party and not merely the more socially liberal business party which is more interested in maintaining the duopoly than they are in winning against the Rs. No brainwashing going on there.

[1] Half of eligible voters don’t even vote in federal elections. And propensity to vote correlates with socioeconomic class. You say “underclass”. Well, is someone from the underclass more likely to vote R? Or not vote at all?

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Re:Learning The Elite Class by ncmncm on Saturday July 16, 2022 @06:49PM (#32122672)

Sure, the Democratic Party is captured by corporate interests. It is the only way to stay in the game. Lots of sincere people involved would like for it to better represent actual people. But politics is called "the art of the possible" for reasons.

95+% of Americans are underclass. (Between 1945 and ~1975 there was a pretty strong middle class. By 1990 it was gone.) Of those of them who vote, about half vote for each party. The rest, who knows?

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Re:Learning The Elite Class by ncmncm on Saturday July 16, 2022 @08:09PM (#32123115)

"fair share".

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