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Re:How Not to Fight Inflation by photochemsyn on Saturday July 16, 2022 @10:19AM (#32118387)
I wonder if the New Yorker's writers and editors believe what they're saying, or are they just reading off the approved talking points?

> "Well, under the circumstances, if it’s really inflation, monetary policy has to come in. This is a very difficult period for all central banks, because energy prices will continue to remain high for years because we are trying to change from fossil fuels to renewables."

A central factor behind high US energy prices in the USA are the facts that crude oil exports were opened up in 2015 after being banned since 1975 or so, and there were several major oil refinery closures right after that, and on top of all that, there's a big natural gas export push.

In corporate media today there's an almost complete ban on discussing trade policy, cross-border capital flows, and the effect of exports and imports on domestic prices (vaguely referred to as supply chain problems at best). Regardless it should be blatantly obvious that if you reduce domestic supply while demand is rebounding post-Covid, there's going to be a price spike.

Fossil fuel corporations like Exxon and Chevron have seen about a 40% spike in share value since December 2021, and trying to blame it all on the war in Ukraine doesn't make a ton of sense. A quick fix would be a cap on exports, but our bought-and-paid-for politicians would never dream of upsetting their Wall Street masters by doing so.

Re:How Not to Fight Inflation by makomk on Saturday July 16, 2022 @05:30PM (#32122153)
It makes perfect sense that all of this would be caused by the war in Ukraine though. Fossil fuel production was already tight prior to that happening, and Russia's invasion and the resulting sanctions cut off a bunch of supply on top of that. That meant that there was not enough available on the market to fulfil demand at the previous prices and it took a substantial price increase for consumption to drop enough that demand could actually be filled. That money didn't just disappear because money doesn't do that, it instead ended up as profits for oil companies.

Similar problems have been caused before by producers artificially limiting output, but all indications are that the world's oil production genuinely is at its limit with current infrastructure or near enough to it as makes no difference. (Partly because the push for net zero, the risk of government restrictions, and ESG campaigns that made it hard to get funding all discouraged investment.) This means that there's no easy fix in the near future. In particular, confiscating those extra profits and handing them out to people in the hope they'll be able to afford stuff again just won't work - the reason they can't afford as much is because the supply isn't there and no amount of moving money around changes that underlying cause.

Re:How Not to Fight Inflation by gruez on Saturday July 16, 2022 @10:51AM (#32118712)
>Fossil fuel corporations like Exxon and Chevron have seen about a 40% spike in share value since December 2021, and trying to blame it all on the war in Ukraine doesn't make a ton of sense

Why doesn't it make sense? Did oil companies suddenly get more greedy? Did some favorable legislation get enacted?

Re:How Not to Fight Inflation by muro on Saturday July 16, 2022 @11:21AM (#32118990)
In Europe, they did get more greedy. There has been some noise about legislating them, but so far nothing has happened.
Re:How Not to Fight Inflation by throwaway_4ever on Saturday July 16, 2022 @12:48PM (#32119756)
The only reason oil companies share prices are up is because before they sold X million barrels of oil a year at Y price, and now they still sell X barrels at Y * 1.4 price. Oil is a free market, if you tell them they shouldn't be "greedy" and keep selling it at Y price, someone else just comes along immediately buying at Y and selling at Y * 1.4, pocketing the arbitrage and your oil is still just as expensive.
Re:How Not to Fight Inflation by muro on Sunday July 17, 2022 @12:27PM (#32128228)
This is about the price difference between oil as commodity and petrol at the gas station.
Re:How Not to Fight Inflation by unicornmama on Saturday July 16, 2022 @10:50AM (#32118692)
A cap on exports would screw your European allies and trigger an unpredictable and negative sun cascade of trade retaliations.