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Re:Why wasn't the steam engine invented earlier? Part II by zabzonk on Friday July 15, 2022 @06:34AM (#32106702)
> quite a lot of mathematical development, plus considerable precision engineering

Not sure the Wright brothers would be with you on this - neither were maths guys and their aircraft were hardly precision-built.

Re:Why wasn't the steam engine invented earlier? Part II by dredmorbius on Friday July 15, 2022 @07:13AM (#32106933)
The Wrights did extensive experimentation, on both models an full-sized prototypes. They built the first wind tunnel and developed calculations for lift and propeller thrust.

They also practiced fairly rapid design iteration, trying out ideas and adapting to actual experience. What they arrived at worked, though it was far from ideal and doesn't much resemble modern aircraft (beyond the notion of wings and the rough principles of control surfaces). Once other designers / engineers entered the field, and with more reliable engines, further iteration advanced rapidly.

Military aircraft played a significant role in WWI, only a decade after the Wright's first powered flight.

Re:Why wasn't the steam engine invented earlier? Part II by slightknack on Friday July 15, 2022 @07:29AM (#32107018)
> He identified the four forces which act on a heavier-than-air flying vehicle: weight, lift, drag and thrust. [...] He also designed the first glider reliably reported to carry a human aloft. He correctly predicted that sustained flight would not occur until a lightweight engine was developed to provide adequate thrust and lift. The Wright brothers acknowledged his importance to the development of aviation.

— https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Cayley

I think by the time the Wright brothers came around, the general theory for powered flight was in place. The Wright Flyer was precision engineered, compared to most 'kites' that came before it. It's not every day you see an internal combustion engine on a kite.

Re:Why wasn't the steam engine invented earlier? Part II by notahacker on Friday July 15, 2022 @09:55AM (#32108241)
> It's not every day you see an internal combustion engine on a kite.

Yup. The engine was more important than the understanding of the principles of propulsion too: even if the four forces had been identified by Aristotle, that wouldn't have been much use in achieving sustained powered flight to civilisations whose closest approximation of a propellor powered by a turbine engine was a waterwheel.

Re:Why wasn't the steam engine invented earlier? Part II by morelisp on Friday July 15, 2022 @06:40AM (#32106733)
And what, there's nobody between Archimedes and the Wright Brothers I could have been referring to? Whatever...